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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby Yandards » August 13th, 2007, 3:21 pm

double-6s wrote:If it's gonna be that much hassle you might as well just stick an Alfa 3.2 in there mate. Probably the same amount of work.

Then you can do a 3.8 conversion (non-solid block) on it for a nice 330 or so horses, then charge it for the full 400! :)

I'm a huge fan of the VR engine, but I personally think the Alfa lump is in a different league (cue abuse!) :)


Yeah the Alfas are even less reliable!!
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby double-6s » August 13th, 2007, 5:28 pm

Yandards wrote:
double-6s wrote:If it's gonna be that much hassle you might as well just stick an Alfa 3.2 in there mate. Probably the same amount of work.

Then you can do a 3.8 conversion (non-solid block) on it for a nice 330 or so horses, then charge it for the full 400! :)

I'm a huge fan of the VR engine, but I personally think the Alfa lump is in a different league (cue abuse!) :)


Yeah the Alfas are even less reliable!!



Not so actually dude. The Alfa V6 is very strong and very reliable according to what i've seen/read/heard.

It's the rest of the car that falls apart :)
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby potatonet » August 14th, 2007, 10:49 pm

AW heck just put a W8 in and bi-turbo it, now thats a motor.
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby Yandards » August 14th, 2007, 11:06 pm

double-6s wrote:
Yandards wrote:
double-6s wrote:If it's gonna be that much hassle you might as well just stick an Alfa 3.2 in there mate. Probably the same amount of work.

Then you can do a 3.8 conversion (non-solid block) on it for a nice 330 or so horses, then charge it for the full 400! :)

I'm a huge fan of the VR engine, but I personally think the Alfa lump is in a different league (cue abuse!) :)


Yeah the Alfas are even less reliable!!



Not so actually dude. The Alfa V6 is very strong and very reliable according to what i've seen/read/heard.

It's the rest of the car that falls apart :)


I thank you for rising to the bait ;) :)
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby kevhaywire » August 15th, 2007, 3:23 pm

Toad wrote:Personally, I'd rather stick a cactus up my bum than give them my R32 and tens of thousands of pounds.


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I love one liners like that 8)

This R36 mallarky then.... I think Dinkus's excellent post just about covers it, nearly all of which I didn't know, so you learn something new every day! As they say, if there is any doubt, there is no doubt.

Personally speaking, as clever as the FSI system is, I would not want 100 Amp/ 100 Volt / 100 bar (1450psi!!) electrics & fuel pressure retro fitted into my car! It's a disaster waiting to happen unless you can fit it to exactly the same standards as VW did at the factory, and with all the requisite fire precautions.

I would expect there to be a weight penalty over the 12V and R32 with the R36 too as VW still haven't got round to producing a magnesium alloy block for the VR6, something BMW have been doing for while now.

Nope, it makes better sense physically, dynamically and financially to mod the engine the car came with.....a turbo on the 12V with modest boost effectively gives you the torque you would get from a half decent V8, but without the weight and packaging penalties.

Makes sense to me :lol:

But no conversion or the addition of a turbo/super is without it's problems....
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby dinkus » August 15th, 2007, 3:54 pm

It's also worth noting that the new R32 engines in the Mk5s also use the same engine, albeit with a smaller bore. Which means no dice if you're trying to do a quick swap with one of them either.

If you were going to get silly power out of the R36 then it'd be worth it, but at best you're talking 50bhp more, at worst it'll be the same kind of power.
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby kevhaywire » August 16th, 2007, 10:28 am

If you could pull it off, the potential is huge. 3.6 litres + a GT4094 turbo would be a quick spooling, insane, 700+hp leviathan. You'd have to convert it to standard injection and intake though....which you might be able to do by putting the non direct injection R32 head from the MK5 on the R36 block?
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby dinkus » August 16th, 2007, 12:55 pm

cheesewire wrote:If you could pull it off, the potential is huge. 3.6 litres + a GT4094 turbo would be a quick spooling, insane, 700+hp leviathan. You'd have to convert it to standard injection and intake though....which you might be able to do by putting the non direct injection R32 head from the MK5 on the R36 block?


I think that's the problem - the new R32s are FSI too, so you're buggered either way. From looking at the ETKA diagrams (not the most accurate reference it has to be said), certainly the exhaust manifold for the R36 is considerably bigger than the 3.2, so I'm not sure how much different the inlet is.

Somewhat irrelevant though really as I'm fairly sure it's FSI.

And yeah, 700+hp would be pretty mad, but er why bother in a FWD car? It'd be undrivable.
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby kevhaywire » August 16th, 2007, 2:56 pm

Who said anything about FWD? The rear seats don't get used much, so...... :lol:
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby CTWG60 » August 16th, 2007, 3:29 pm

cheesewire wrote:Who said anything about FWD? The rear seats don't get used much, so...... :lol:



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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby dinkus » August 16th, 2007, 3:40 pm

CTWG60 wrote:
cheesewire wrote:Who said anything about FWD? The rear seats don't get used much, so...... :lol:



Mechano has a lot to answer for the mental health of certain individuals of today's society!!! :lol:



ROFL :lol:
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby potatonet » August 16th, 2007, 4:26 pm

nah he's right, put it in the back seat!

we have a mid engine corrado in the states with a twin turbo 6 in it! its fast.....
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby kevhaywire » August 16th, 2007, 4:31 pm

potatonet wrote:nah he's right, put it in the back seat!

we have a mid engine corrado in the states with a twin turbo 6 in it! its fast.....


Would this be the 24V rear engine Corrado the right honourable gentelman, Mr Bill Schimmel built? :lol:

Was speaking about that on the phone with him last week...... it's got two GT3071 turbos on it, and I have ONE GT3071 on mine and it's fast..... that thing must be insane! 900hp capable. He's got two 3071s on his 911 aswell.... 8)
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby potatonet » August 16th, 2007, 5:17 pm

that would be the man! oh its such a small world when you own a corrado
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Re: 3.6 Passat/touareg motor into 92 SLC

Postby kevhaywire » August 21st, 2007, 10:06 am

He's a big Corrado fan 8)
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