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Thread: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

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    288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    Hi all, looking to start a definitve thread on this and if the information is good enough we should make it sticky.

    A common mod is to fit MkIV Golf rear brake callipers to stop seizing and make them more reliable. The old MkII rears that were fitted to nearly all VAGs of a certain vintage are notorious for the handbrake cable mechanism freezing up, leading to pad squeal, seized callipers, or even worse, smoke.

    288 mm front callipers are also a worthy upgrade as they increase pad contact area by a third, even for the relatively tiny disc diameter increase, and as far as my research goes, they will fit under 15" standard wheels, e.g. VR6 Speedlines.

    Both mods are 5 stud for VR6 in my case, although the rears can also be used on 8v/16v and G60 cars.

    We should put together a definitive list of the OEM part numbers for the components required for the conversion to act as point of reference for anyone wanting to do this - some will want to source parts secondhand and refurb, others will go for new. as the parts are all still available from the dealers. Nearly all VAG brake system parts are ATE or Girling.

    So basically we need:

    FRONT
    1) 288mm callipers - ATE only, from late VR MkIII Golf, some Passats and possibly others. There are two types, banjo pipe and screw thread x2
    From VR6 Golf3, banjo fitting
    3A0615123 calliper with 54mm pistons lh
    3A0615124 calliper with 54mm pistons rh

    From Passat,screw thread
    4A0615123A calliper with 57mm pistons lh
    4A0615124A calliper with 57mm pistons rh


    2) 288mm front calliper carriers x2
    4A0615125A calliper carriers

    3) Calliper slider bolts and sleeves x 4
    Guide bushes (For Golf VR6 1997/9 -VW Part no: 4D0 698 647 - you need 2 for each side

    4) Carrier mounting bolts x 4
    N90708502 Mounting bolt

    5) 2 x front ABS rotors (where fitted)

    6) Front flexi brake hoses - either Goodridge, VAG or DG Autotech x 2
    VAG OEM 1H0611701B Brake hose front
    Goodridge full set braided SVW0604-6P and they are for a golf VR6 95on

    DG Autotech front hoses only:
    http://www.dgautotech.com/dgauto/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypag e.tpl&product_id=53&category_id=25&option=com_virt uemart&Itemid=96

    7) Front 288mm discs x 2
    3A0615301A Brake discs


    Calliper rebuild kit - if buying used brakes
    Caliper Rebuild Kit (For Golf VR6 1997/9 -VW Part no: 3A0698471 - Set of seals = £12.51 inc vat, per side. This includes the Piston Seals & Piston Dust Covers

    9) Front 288mm Brake pads
    8N0698151 Front brake pads

    REAR
    1) MkIV rear callipers x 2
    Mk4 Golf Calipers = VW Part numbers: 1J0 615 423 & 1J0 615 424 = £76.50 + vat each

    2) Rear calliper carriers x 2 (not neccesarily needed, as they should go straight on)
    1H0615425 / 1H0615426

    3) Rear Calliper carrier bolts x 4
    ATE 4.0101-3601.2 or VAG N0139123

    4) Rear Calliper slider bolts and sleeves x 4
    8E0 698 470 B

    5) Rear ABS rotors x 2
    1H0501639

    6) Goodridge Mk2=>MkIV Brake hose conversion kit (banjo fitting) x 1
    Goodridge kit part number- SVW0506-2P ?

    7) Handbrake cables and fittings
    VW part number: 1H0 609 712E = £11.32 + vat each x 2

    Rear discs x 2
    357615601B

    9) Rear pads
    1H069845G


    10) Rear wheel bearings x 2
    VW Part number: 191 598 625

    You could also add brake fluid, splash shields, bleed nipples etc. but I think there is enought there to be going on with.

    I will do some research and update the thread as appropriate, and any help with part numbers will be much appreciated. I will add them in once they are confirmed as correct.

    Any corrections to the above or additional info/ideas is welcome.

    Cheers,
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    I re-furbed both mk3 VR6 288's and mk4 rears recently.

    The mk4 rear carriers DID NOT fit onto my hub - there is a slight offset difference!
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    i did make these threads a while back when doing mine, am sure the info could be made a bit clearer though.

    rears
    viewtopic.php?f=23&t=72885

    fronts (the info is halfway down 1st page of thread)
    viewtopic.php?f=23&t=72642&hilit=288mm
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    Cheers - I just want to get all the part numbers in one place.
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    right so the passatt 288mm brakes are a straight fit and bigger pistons? would this mean that you can literally replace the calipers, carriers and discs as a straight swap without cocking about with the mk2-mk4 hoses?

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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    Mk2-Mk4 hoses are for the mk4 rear calipers mate, I assume u meant the late mk3 VR6 front hoses?
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    yea thats what i meant, i get confused with all these different types of hoses. How are the 288's dubstar, and how much has it cost you in total for everything?

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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    Thought so mate Can't answer the question tho sorry mate, obv depends whether they're banjo connections or not...

    Yeh mate, we had some issues bleeding the system, so the pedal travelled quite a lot, felt very spongey, but 2-3weeks on I think it's starting to settle a bit, will get em bled again, but there's some definate positive response from them!! Put it this way, they're better than the 280's now but I think when it's bled again there should be an even better improvement
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    deffo worth getting 288mm fronts, i wasn't too impressed at first, but now i really notice i have much better braking power
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    Re: 288 Front Brakes and MkIV Rears -Part Number Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 3corsameal
    deffo worth getting 288mm fronts, i wasn't too impressed at first, but now i really notice i have much better braking power
    Just had mine done, picking up the car this weekend, can't wait!
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