sorry for such a late reply have been working away and havent had chance to log on. Thanks again for the great replies there going to be a great help when a finally decide what choice to make. Im really drawn towards getting a older car and if i was too decide to go down this route a carrado will be may choice. There seems to be pro's and cons to all the models within the carrado family. I am drawn toward the G60 and VR6 versions, so more searching is on the cards.