Coxys R32 4 Motion Corrado - On the Road!!!!

[CoxyLaad 0]

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Thought I would post some pics - Havent gave any progress report for a long time now.

 

Engine runs - has done for a long time now, 4wd should be pretty much done and dusted this month, then a load of other little bits, paint, then it should be ready to rock :D

 

Supercharger is going to be stage 2 I reckon, unless I do really well and have some spare time :wink:

[Shilakadaddy 0]

Another corrado I'm looking forward to seeing completed! Should be super duper :D

[biggerbigben 0]

looking good!

[CoxyLaad 0]

really?

 

At the moment I would have said it looks fit for the scrap yard! :D

 

Should be looking more like it tomorrow when I unpick the old floor seams an get the jetta syncro floor in.

 

Phats doing his at exactly the same time - syncro conversions....in syncro :D

 

I'll be leaving now.....

[biggerbigben 0]

The work in progress is looking good, I should have said.... Keep at it my man and yours will soon be like mine...

 

I see you have both the rallye 4wd and the haldex, have you decided whats going in? That 4motion fuel tank is massive!

[A20 LEE 0]

The work in progress is looking good, I should have said.... Keep at it my man and yours will soon be like mine...

 

I see you have both the rallye 4wd and the haldex, have you decided whats going in? That 4motion fuel tank is massive!

 

You guys are putting ideas into my head!! I actually spoke to Jeff Webb about 4x4 and he said its almost a bolt on conversion.

[CoxyLaad 0]

The work in progress is looking good, I should have said.... Keep at it my man and yours will soon be like mine...

 

I see you have both the rallye 4wd and the haldex, have you decided whats going in? That 4motion fuel tank is massive!

 

I am going to fit the rallye axle with the haldex diff grafted into it. The 4motion back axle is totally enormous (as you can see it leaning up against my kitchen wall.)

 

 

I wouldnt go so far as to say its a 'bolt on conversion' Lee, but its not as difficult as you would initially think. Cutting the floor out is the big part.

 

Better get on - more pics later 8)

[biggerbigben 0]

The work in progress is looking good, I should have said.... Keep at it my man and yours will soon be like mine...

 

I see you have both the rallye 4wd and the haldex, have you decided whats going in? That 4motion fuel tank is massive!

 

You guys are putting ideas into my head!! I actually spoke to Jeff Webb about 4x4 and he said its almost a bolt on conversion.

 

It is a bolt on conversion pretty much, you need to make a couple of things but basically the hard part is finding all the parts, brackets etc. Lee if you are going to do it, you want to weld in a floorpan as oppossed to Dubsports way of doing it which is not very factory at all. They just cut a hole in the boot and box section it back up which means you have to have a fuel tank in the boot... up to you but I rekon yours would benefit from a proper floorpan conversion. VR6 4x4 turbo, now that sounds awesome! :D

 

:D :D

[biggerbigben 0]

The work in progress is looking good, I should have said.... Keep at it my man and yours will soon be like mine...

 

I see you have both the rallye 4wd and the haldex, have you decided whats going in? That 4motion fuel tank is massive!

 

I am going to fit the rallye axle with the haldex diff grafted into it. The 4motion back axle is totally enormous (as you can see it leaning up against my kitchen wall.)

 

 

I wouldnt go so far as to say its a 'bolt on conversion' Lee, but its not as difficult as you would initially think. Cutting the floor out is the big part.

 

Better get on - more pics later 8)

 

Coxy, have you and phat talked about the rear camber issue? I would love to get it fixed in some way as it spoils the look of the car + one will eat rear tyres! The motorsport rallye used some rose joints on modified wishbones, maybe we could put our heads togeather and come up with something, you will see what I mean when you get the car on the ground...

 

keep us updated!

[CoxyLaad 0]

have we not.... I was even going to build my own rear axle form scratch, but decided against it.

 

I am not running my car too low so it should bother me really, but its a future plan for me to make something adjustable. my plan was to build something using a set of front hubs. that way we could adjust camber toe in and alsorts.

 

I will see how this standard setup works first. This is going to be a track car so I dont want it too low. My ideal ride height will be so that I can fit 2 fingers inbetween the top of the wheel and arches. I am not into bone shattering ground scraping antics :D

[CoxyLaad 0]

I was also in contact with a company that sell offset bushes, but I havent pursued that avenue yet.

[biggerbigben 0]

Mate trust me there is serious camber without it being low!!!!! Do you remember that pic I posted before I fitted mk1 golf gti suspension at the back.... looked like an offroader with nil camber. My ride height at the back is a little high, I can almost get a fist inbetween the top of the wheel and the arch and the tyre still only touches about 2/3 on the ground because of the tilt. Just thought we could put our heads together and try and modify our current wishbones as I can't be arsed with making custom rear subframes etc. Anyway you will see what I mean when you get it on the floor. I will fish out a picture of the current camber. I don't want mine slamed on the ground either, I'm much the same as you and want a bit of a gap but I want it lower than it is. I'll find those pics of the motorsport rallye. Don't let me put you off though as its only a small problem that can be over come. When Phat get's involved then things might happen...

[biggerbigben 0]

P.S. Those ecentric bushes will only help a little...

[CoxyLaad 0]

hmmm

I have seen a few lowered rallyes and they dont appear to have such a big problem with camber?

 

I doubt we will be able to do anything with the wishbones as they are cast items, so cutting an welding isnt really an option. We could posibly be able to modify the main carrier so the wisbones mount at a different angle.

 

My mate Daz has just built a syncro 1.8T golf and its low but doesnt seem to have any camber problems?

[CoxyLaad 0]

p.s. got any pics of the motorsport rallye setup?

[24V Renshaw 0]

Coxy. Looks like good progress is being made mate.

 

The Rallye rear arches are much smaller "lower" than the Corrado ones, so the car doesn't have to sit half as low as the C would to look sensible.

 

Jay

[biggerbigben 0]

hmmm

I have seen a few lowered rallyes and they dont appear to have such a big problem with camber?

 

I doubt we will be able to do anything with the wishbones as they are cast items, so cutting an welding isnt really an option. We could posibly be able to modify the main carrier so the wisbones mount at a different angle.

 

My mate Daz has just built a syncro 1.8T golf and its low but doesnt seem to have any camber problems?

 

the corrado has much higher arches than a rallye or mk2 and thats where are problem is, thus we have to lower the car more to get the same stance.... You will need mk1 golf gti rear coilovers btw as corrado ones are too long...

 

Jay's got the idea, but then he has seen a couple of 4x4 corrado's including mine and in the flesh its noticable.

 

Yes the rear wishbones are to a certain extent cast, but they have a weld as well...

[CoxyLaad 0]

I'd better get looking into it then

[A20 LEE 0]

What's the rear camber issue you guy's are talking about?

[CoxyLaad 0]

basically the top of the wheels point too far in like this / \

as the rear axle compresses it induces negative camber to aid turn in.

 

Lowering the car has the same effect.

[A20 LEE 0]

basically the top of the wheels point too far in like this / \

as the rear axle compresses it induces negative camber to aid turn in.

 

Lowering the car has the same effect.

 

The idea solution would be a shorter wishbones?

[biggerbigben 0]

The idea solution would be a shorter wishbones?

 

I'm afraid its not as simple as that. Due to the design of the rallye rear axle shorter wishbones won't help the problem, basically the wishbone mounts need to be higher or some sort of adjustable solution needs to be found... :roll:

 

 

Right you can see from the pics what the problem is and the 4th pic is a close up of the wishbone so you can see where it piverts.

 

Pic 1 is sitting high at the back, prob about standard height and there is still loads of camber.

 

Pic 2 is when I lowered it big style for inters 2003, still had lots left on the coils so could have gone further (mk1 golf gti rear suspension btw, not corrado)

 

Pic 3 sort of shows the angle the whishbone sits at.

 

Pic 4 is a close up of the left hand wishbone.

[CoxyLaad 0]

heres one for ya then ben.

 

In PVW or the golf a few months back there was a vr6 turbo syncro, that was running fairly low yet still retained decent camber.

 

and it looked like a standard setup to me.

 

Not that I am saying awesome have done something wrong on your car, but have you seen any other 4wd corrados with this porblem?

[biggerbigben 0]

heres one for ya then ben.

 

In PVW or the golf a few months back there was a vr6 turbo syncro, that was running fairly low yet still retained decent camber.

 

and it looked like a standard setup to me.

 

Not that I am saying awesome have done something wrong on your car, but have you seen any other 4wd corrados with this porblem?

 

Yes, I now of another 2 4wd corrados which have the same problem.

 

The mk2 Golf + Mk2 Golf rallye have much lower arches and therefore they do not need to lower the car as much to get the same stance. Again I have examied them aswell, trust me... lol They can also use normal shocks at the rear but we can not, again the corrado ones are far too long and you will need mk1 golf gti versions which are about 150mm shorter!

[CoxyLaad 0]

lol ok then :-) I had to ask :wink:

 

jetta syncro and rallye rear shocks are smaller then the 2wd counterparts though, I am sure of that.

 

You are also right about the welds in the swinging arms too. I am thinking something along the lines of a slotted mounting point for the inner pivot of the swingarm, that would give us adjustment on negative camber.

 

Other than that I reckon I may have just cut my boot floor up for nothing lol