G60DUBBA 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Ello fellow Dubbers... Slight problem agen with the Raddo.... Tapping noise coming from the charger, i think its time for a re-con. I don't want 2 risk driving up 2 G-WERKS 2 get the recon done as I don't want it to go KAPOOT on me on the way there... Can any1 help me on how 2 bypass the supercharger, so the car is still driveable. I need 2 drive! Regards! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Supercharger is usually an engine component so moving to the right forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G Charged 0 Posted April 6, 2008 from what i gather its a case of unbolting the charger, using a shorter alternator belt or you can buy bungee belts, and blocking the charger oil feed and return - a nut and bolt with some copper washers should do the trick, and then attaching an airfilter to the inlet side...cheap halfords ripspeed cone sholud be adiquate. from looking at my engine thats all that seems to be the case, but sumone who has done it before will let you know for definate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traverse 0 Posted April 6, 2008 I took this from the VWVortex, but it should contain all the info you need. :) When your charger bites the dust but you need to drive: G60 Emergency Bypass Instructions originally submitted by Yosh Hakutani to the CCA website edited by cbgthor for Vortexers Items needed: 1. 13mm socket + 13mm wrench 2. phillips and flathead screwdrivers 3. Jack/Jackstand will make things easier 4. 59.5" serpentine belt. Any local autoparts store will be able to get you one. Just tell them the specific length you need. 5. Gloves or towel (optional) 6. duct tape/racer tape, always comes in handy 7. cone filter (optional, unless you don't mind having the air run through the dead/not spinning charger, through the intercooler, and finally into the intake mani. However, very necessary if your charger spit pieces of metal into the pipes) 8. Rubber Mallet - may come in handy, either for getting the tensioner off or taking out your frustration about the blown g-lader on the blown g-lader >Procedure 1: 1. remove the nut @ the top of the serpentine belt tensioner. wearing the gloves, push down on the tensioner while rocking it back and forth towards the passenger side. Rubber mallet works too and doesn't hurt it. The tensioner will come off. 2. remove the airbox 3. jack up the passenger side and place the jackstand firmly. 4. >Remove the water-pump/power-steering belt. There are 2 nuts perpendicular and 1 nut that will remove the tension - (all 13mm). -OR- >Just remove the power steering pump pulley to get the v-belt off. Three allen wrench bolts. 5. Look at how the serpentine belt routes itself around the crank pulley, ac compressor, alternator, and the supercharger. (diagrams in the Bentley manual if you forget) All we will be doing is to bypass the supercharger. In essence, from the top of the AC compressor, we loop around one of the idler pulleys and go to the alternator. It's really pretty self explanatory. It's exactly like it was with the charger, except it doesn't loop up to the charger. Either make note of its path beforehand or use the Bentley manual 6. Use the 59.5" serpentine belt and reverse the instructions. >Procedure 2 - if your g-lader has blown up and sent bits into the intercooler You're going to need some more tools for this. 1. Remove the rubber elbow between the intake / throttle body and the outlet pipe from the intercooler. does it have metal in it? no? great! Go to #2. yes? you probably got some metal into the engine. bad news. I don't know what you should do at this point - tow the car? 2. Remove the outlet pipe from the intercooler - to get to the clamp, you may need to remove some of the wheel well housing as well as the driver's side brake cooling duct. 3. Roll the duct/racer tape around the rubber intake pipe. (on the end that was attached to the outlet pipe from the intercooler) The idea is to build the hose up to where it will match the diameter of the cone filter so that you can attach it directly to the intake, bypassing the clogged intercooler and blowing metal into the engine. Alternatively, I suppose you could attach the airbox directly to the intake...Might be limited on space though. "A long term issue is what to do with the PCV valve blow off oil. You could pipe from the valve into an secured oil bottle - just empty it out everyonce in a while." general discussion on the topic if you're not convinced: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=620232 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=264041 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=240171 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=206674 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=140036 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=361229 With determination and patience, and a trunk of the right tools, this can be done on the side of the road. I used to keep all the stuff I need for this in my trunk, purely out of paranoia. The belt that you need to use as the serpentine belt is a 6PK-1505 or a Duralast # 592K6. It's a 6 rib belt, 1505 mm long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60DUBBA 0 Posted April 6, 2008 cheers mate. thats great help. ill have 2 get down to it sometime during the week top man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traverse 0 Posted April 7, 2008 cheers mate. thats great help. ill have 2 get down to it sometime during the week top man! No problem. I was in your boat about two weeks ago. Glad I could help :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 7, 2008 Bare in mind it will run like a 1.2 not a 1.8 becuase of the low compression. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traverse 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Bare in mind it will run like a 1.2 not a 1.8 becuase of the low compression. Yeah, and your mileage will be terrible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flusted 0 Posted April 7, 2008 i feel for you, my chargers bypassed 16v g60 with 440cc injectors and map to suit, i swear my mums 1.3 mk2 is quicker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60DUBBA 0 Posted April 12, 2008 I took this from the VWVortex, but it should contain all the info you need. :) When your charger bites the dust but you need to drive: G60 Emergency Bypass Instructions originally submitted by Yosh Hakutani to the CCA website edited by cbgthor for Vortexers Items needed: 1. 13mm socket + 13mm wrench 2. phillips and flathead screwdrivers 3. Jack/Jackstand will make things easier 4. 59.5" serpentine belt. Any local autoparts store will be able to get you one. Just tell them the specific length you need. 5. Gloves or towel (optional) 6. duct tape/racer tape, always comes in handy 7. cone filter (optional, unless you don't mind having the air run through the dead/not spinning charger, through the intercooler, and finally into the intake mani. However, very necessary if your charger spit pieces of metal into the pipes) 8. Rubber Mallet - may come in handy, either for getting the tensioner off or taking out your frustration about the blown g-lader on the blown g-lader >Procedure 1: 1. remove the nut @ the top of the serpentine belt tensioner. wearing the gloves, push down on the tensioner while rocking it back and forth towards the passenger side. Rubber mallet works too and doesn't hurt it. The tensioner will come off. 2. remove the airbox 3. jack up the passenger side and place the jackstand firmly. 4. >Remove the water-pump/power-steering belt. There are 2 nuts perpendicular and 1 nut that will remove the tension - (all 13mm). -OR- >Just remove the power steering pump pulley to get the v-belt off. Three allen wrench bolts. 5. Look at how the serpentine belt routes itself around the crank pulley, ac compressor, alternator, and the supercharger. (diagrams in the Bentley manual if you forget) All we will be doing is to bypass the supercharger. In essence, from the top of the AC compressor, we loop around one of the idler pulleys and go to the alternator. It's really pretty self explanatory. It's exactly like it was with the charger, except it doesn't loop up to the charger. Either make note of its path beforehand or use the Bentley manual 6. Use the 59.5" serpentine belt and reverse the instructions. >Procedure 2 - if your g-lader has blown up and sent bits into the intercooler You're going to need some more tools for this. 1. Remove the rubber elbow between the intake / throttle body and the outlet pipe from the intercooler. does it have metal in it? no? great! Go to #2. yes? you probably got some metal into the engine. bad news. I don't know what you should do at this point - tow the car? 2. Remove the outlet pipe from the intercooler - to get to the clamp, you may need to remove some of the wheel well housing as well as the driver's side brake cooling duct. 3. Roll the duct/racer tape around the rubber intake pipe. (on the end that was attached to the outlet pipe from the intercooler) The idea is to build the hose up to where it will match the diameter of the cone filter so that you can attach it directly to the intake, bypassing the clogged intercooler and blowing metal into the engine. Alternatively, I suppose you could attach the airbox directly to the intake...Might be limited on space though. "A long term issue is what to do with the PCV valve blow off oil. You could pipe from the valve into an secured oil bottle - just empty it out everyonce in a while." general discussion on the topic if you're not convinced: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=620232 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=264041 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=240171 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=206674 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=140036 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=361229 With determination and patience, and a trunk of the right tools, this can be done on the side of the road. I used to keep all the stuff I need for this in my trunk, purely out of paranoia. The belt that you need to use as the serpentine belt is a 6PK-1505 or a Duralast # 592K6. It's a 6 rib belt, 1505 mm long. where can i get the belt from? halfords??? vw? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites