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ive just tried to fit my new bbs rs's to my 93 vr,got the back ones on fine but the fronts wont go on,bloody wheels,they wont go over standard calipers,any ideas any1.Tried to measure the difference compared to the solitudes i was running,think i need to make up 15mm. Plus i had to buy new allen key bolts cos the bolts wouldnt go in the new drilled holes,nightmare! So now i need new longer allen key bolts and spacers,any1 had any experience with these? Heard that universal spacers can cause vibrations,but havent got a clue? Help!

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what rs's do you have? different rs's have different back spacing from the inside of the spokes to the mounting hub.What brakes are you running?

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dont know what the rs's are,the bloke i got them off has had em re driled to 5x100's and they ve drilled right through the numbers,doh! Ive just got standard vr6 front brakes

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Depending on how much clearance you need, try a combination of grinding your caliper and carrier down a touch and using a 5mm spacer. With a 5mm spacer enough of your hub will protude so that the wheel can still locate hubcentric. The cheap universal spacers will be fine just make sure you have spigot rings so that the centre bore of your wheels is 57.1mm enabling it to locate centrally on your hub.

 

Have you got any pics of the backs of your wheels?

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i'll get some pics up 2m of the wheels,tried 5mm spacers,then 3mm and 5mm put together and still not clear then tried two 5mm's and 3mm and still tight,think its gona ave to be 15mm,good shout on the spiggot rings i forgot bout those

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my rs's used to catch on the pads, sounds weird but it was just on the edge of the pad facing the hub. You should also check that. Anyway post some pics and i'll compare the backs of the wheels to mine. What offset are your wheels?

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wow 15mm spacers for the front sounds vibration to me.

also wouldn't the outer lips protrude outside of the arches?

thank god my RS001 a la maison 16 inch do not have this problem.

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the backs have very shallow spacing between the spokes and the mounting face, the only way to get them to clear is using spacers. Are they still the original specs outer lip and barrel size wise? as it mentions 6x15 et 24?

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dont know mate,when i got em(ebay) the bloke said they had been refurbed with new barrells,new outer lips and new bolts,sorry bout the pics it says 8x15 not 6.measured it again i need 15mm spacers to get clear of the calipers,spoke to a few people who said that mite be to dangerous. surely if i get the spacers that screw onto the hubs and then screw the wheels onto the spacers they are the same as running pcd adaptors?

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now i know which rs's they are, they are the following fitment originally:

RS065 8 x 15 24.0 112.00 5 57.0 Audi 100 Q,200 Q,Quattro

 

I think the only way to get them to fit will be using spacers, but are you sure you need 15mm? It's possible to grind the calipers and carriers down 1-2mm to get a bit of extra clearance that way, then you could see if you could get away with 10mm spacers? The spacers that bolt to your hub only start in 20mm thickness upwards, the type you need would just use longer bolts that go through the wheel and the spacer and screw in to the hub directly. Using spacers with longer bolts is perfectly safe.

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i'd say go with the longer bolts and sandwich spacers evey time as its very easy to have the other type loosen off :help: , o and 15mm hubcentric spacers on the front wouldnt be too bad as that'd take the offest to et39 which is v close to standard! - but i'd do as above first and see what can be ground off the standard calliper :)

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My custom RS001 fit like a glove although the stock size is 7X15 ET 25.

 

bbs instar

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different width lips

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different width inners

 

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new lips and barrels sitting in the garage for years.

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some rs bolts and nuts to hold the wheels temporarily together

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2 inch lip

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plaaced instar over barrel first.

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lip goes over the instar

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bolts and nuts

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looks pretty shiney

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16X 8.5 wide

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6.0 inch inner barrel clears with 5-6mm before hitting the spring.

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looks like going with a 2 inch outer is too wide and will give me rear wheel arch issues.

 

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before

 

 

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back

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My RS001 are finally assembled and test fitting it on the rado for any clearance issues.

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thanks for all your help,cant believe you know which 1s ive got thats wicked,how do you think et9 will look,will it stay inside the arch or be illeagal.Ive had another thought how bout getting pcd adaptors and putting 5x100 - 5x112's on and using the wheels original holes?

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