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  1. The G60 G-lader can push more air into the engine. On a small CC Polo, its alot of air from the G60 therefore more power. The G60 on a Corrado has to fill a larger capacity. Essentially the flow rates between a G40 on a 1.3 and a G60 on a 1.8 are the same Lke I said, put something that puts the same amount of air in that a G60 charger can do on a polo, onto a 1.8 engine and it'll so you similar increases. I think you are somewhat confused , it has nothing to do with changing the flow rates etc..... It boils down to the fact that the 1.8 G60 is no way as efficient than the polo engine.... Yes , Manifold pressure will be higher due to full cylinders etc. but it uses the extra air and fueling efficiently within the engine compared with the 1.8 G60 . Using identicle CFM produced by the blower. Example Take high compression motors for instance.. you could run a standard charger with standard pulley etc.. but run high compression ,... but still get as much power as a chipped and pulle'd car....... but we wont get into that discussion :) I can't disagree with you on your power claims for the ones you've setup. if you've done it then fair play. Mine is an 55mm pullied Eaton M45 converted 1308cc engine with 40mm Jenvey throttlebodies on DTA management. Nice Spec. alot of germans run the eatons , but again dont really take them much further other than just by adding the eaton charger. It will be interesting to see what power it will make. 230-245hp Is achiveable with the correct setup as a guestimate. whats the full spec if you dont mind me asking. Im about to get another Corrado at long last, albeit with a 1.8T put in.
  2. Right, ive had both a Corrado G60 and two Polo G40's. I consider the Corrado the better car in all exceptions apart from one - RAW FUN! The polo is a supercharged shopping car, that keeps you on your toes alot of the time. The Corrado is sublime in every department but its just missing that raw edge that the polo has. But the corrado was never designed to have a rawness to it, it was designed to be 'the ultimate driving machine' - stolen from BMW adverts. IMO. I agreee with you on this one totally. G40's rev alot quicker than their big brothers. It like being a kid isn't it, always running about, never stopping, sooo much energy. The Corrado is more like us now, we'd rather drive than run anywhere and energy... its not like the old days I tell thee now. A g40 is more a 0-100mph car. CC's count in the 100+mph game and the corrado wins. I aggree with this too to an extent. Going back to the original 1st post. The power figures are all wrong. A G60 charger, chip, pulley on a G40 engine would not touch 190+bhp. It would need cam, headwork, intercooler to achieve that. This I dont aggree with , I've helped friends in germany setup thier G40's totally bog standard engines apart from a a ported G60 charger, 65MM pulley exhaust. Chip.the guys were stumbling at around 186 hp ( mainly due to using modified g40 chip and standard map sensor). but after we installed a bigger map sensor and gave is a full remap from scratch is produced 205 HPand 190 lb of torque....AFR was spot on through the range and not running rich like most G60 converted polos run. Bearing in mind it wasnt Just 1 G40 I helped to setup , its about 6. all produced similar power give or take a couple of HP. Do the same in a Corrado G60 and your touching 230+bhp. Ok , But do the same in a polo eg , intercooler, modified head etc pistons . and we are looking at 215hp -220hp + and over 200 ft lb of torque. These arnt figures that I'm pulling off my head, Ive seen these. But the Polo would also be alot more unreliable, since its revving the G60 charger alot harder (i know, my mate has blown two G60 chargers up now on his polo.) Yes I aggree with you on this one. They dont last very long at all on th g60 convered polos. Put a bigger charger (say lysholm) on the G60 and it'll produce the equivalent of what the Polo has done with a G60 charger. So it doesn't show up the 1.8 G60 nor makes it silly. OK, the original discussion was using the same supercharger and modifications on each car, chip , pulley and modified g40 charger (bigger map sensor on the G40 because is has trouble with extra boost) Unfortunately I have not had the oppertunity to fit a lysholm type charger to the g40 engine as some guys in germany may have trouble passing the TUV. I'm not 100% sure how the testing etc works. They are more efficient than the g60 charger , even in ported form so I could only assume it will make even more power.. similar to what a 1.8 g60 engine would make up to a point. To 200 hp The polo engine matches the 1.8 corrado in power and maybe down 10ft lb odd in in torque due to the smaller capacity etc. OK Now .... 1.8 G60 will be making and extra 40 hp from stock (160hp) to make 200hp and an extra 40 ft lb. The polo on the other hand will be making an extra 87hp and 89 ft lb from 113 hp + 111 ftlb or 115 hp and ft lb 112 if using a series 1 g40 Surely its not rocket science but would you expect the bigger engine to reap more gains? ..even ignoring the actual figures .. and just going by percentage increase! The Polo was designed to be lightweight so it doesn't need a big nor powerful engine to be quick as it relys on PTW. The Corrado is a heavy car (comparatively) and requires the same conducive increase in cc/power to maintain a good PTW. Yes I agree with you on this.. but the original discussion was comparing the engines an gains for modifications stated. Personally for an everyday car, I'd rather have a Corrado G60. For a weekend toy, a Polo G40 with a wishbone conversion. Yes I would too! I'm getting old now and i need my comfort. but a modified g40 if definately more fun! P.S by the way this is not a stab at your points... so please do not take any comment personally, this is a forum for good disscussion
  3. At the end of the day, if you put a G60 engine into a car the same weight as a G40 polo without fettling either engine, the G60 powered car would crap all over the polo. Fettle them both the same amount, and again, the G60 would win... Have a look at a torque curve from a G40 and a G60 engine and ignore the BHP figures, that'll tell you why they bothered making a G60 engine in the first place... 8) All very interesting..... you say about torque etc.... yes a 1.8 would have more torque than a 1.8 fair enough.. but they take a day and a half to get to the redline.. 5.5k . the 1.3 motor would have been 6.0k and halfway throu the next gear!
  4. Similar mods to each car... but this time the polo is Only running a g40 charger. ie 145-150 hp / 140 torque and the corrado runnin rougly 190-200hp with similar torque to match Yet the old polo still trounces the Corrado :) So in the real world yes torque does make the difference , but not in the case of these 2 cars in comparison.
  5. Hi , I totally understand where your coming from regards to being a different beast... and I'm not here either to knock the corrado etc... but u gotta see where I'm coming from .. when you look at both engines side by side.. and the power etc they produce from the mods I've mentioned. It does seem a bit insane. 250 from a 1.3 can be made relitavly easily from a 1.3 with some bottom end, head work.. but I doubt the G-60 lader would be able to cope.
  6. Hi mate , thanks for the greets what do you mean by optimistic? for the 1.8 engine or 1.3 The 1.3's make this kind of power with the mods stated no problem
  7. Look at both engines. Golf/Passat 1.8 8v G60 produces 160 hp Polo 1.3 8V produces 113bhp. Now..... Fit a ported charger, 68 mm pulley , chip and a decent exhaust and the g60 Golf/corrado /Passat is running 190-200 hp Do the same to a G40 1.3 engine.. ie ported G60 charger, chip ,smaller Pulley and decent exhaust and your looking at 190-200 hp too. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt this make the 1.8 8v engine look silly compared to its smaller (or maybe bigger :lol: ) brother? And seeing as the 1.3 revs quicker and is about 200kg ligher this would make them blisteringly quicker than a 1.8 G60 engine'd golf/passat/corrado. Whats 1/4 miles times and 0-60 times do the rados/golfs put out? I know the g40 lump as standard chucks out an 8 second to 60 with 113 hp and top speed of 125. cheers for looking
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