Right, ive had both a Corrado G60 and two Polo G40's.
I consider the Corrado the better car in all exceptions apart from one - RAW FUN! The polo is a supercharged shopping car, that keeps you on your toes alot of the time. The Corrado is sublime in every department but its just missing that raw edge that the polo has. But the corrado was never designed to have a rawness to it, it was designed to be 'the ultimate driving machine' - stolen from BMW adverts. IMO.
I agreee with you on this one totally.
G40's rev alot quicker than their big brothers. It like being a kid isn't it, always running about, never stopping, sooo much energy. The Corrado is more like us now, we'd rather drive than run anywhere and energy... its not like the old days I tell thee now.
A g40 is more a 0-100mph car. CC's count in the 100+mph game and the corrado wins.
I aggree with this too to an extent.
Going back to the original 1st post. The power figures are all wrong. A G60 charger, chip, pulley on a G40 engine would not touch 190+bhp. It would need cam, headwork, intercooler to achieve that.
This I dont aggree with , I've helped friends in germany setup thier G40's totally bog standard engines apart from a a ported G60 charger, 65MM pulley exhaust. Chip.the guys were stumbling at around 186 hp ( mainly due to using modified g40 chip and standard map sensor). but after we installed a bigger map sensor and gave is a full remap from scratch is produced 205 HPand 190 lb of torque....AFR was spot on through the range and not running rich like most G60 converted polos run.
Bearing in mind it wasnt Just 1 G40 I helped to setup , its about 6. all produced similar power give or take a couple of HP.
Do the same in a Corrado G60 and your touching 230+bhp.
Ok , But do the same in a polo eg , intercooler, modified head etc pistons . and we are looking at 215hp -220hp + and over 200 ft lb of torque. These arnt figures that I'm pulling off my head, Ive seen these.
But the Polo would also be alot more unreliable, since its revving the G60 charger alot harder (i know, my mate has blown two G60 chargers up now on his polo.)
Yes I aggree with you on this one. They dont last very long at all on th g60 convered polos.
Put a bigger charger (say lysholm) on the G60 and it'll produce the equivalent of what the Polo has done with a G60 charger.
So it doesn't show up the 1.8 G60 nor makes it silly.
OK, the original discussion was using the same supercharger and modifications on each car, chip , pulley and modified g40 charger (bigger map sensor on the G40 because is has trouble with extra boost)
Unfortunately I have not had the oppertunity to fit a lysholm type charger to the g40 engine as some guys in germany may have trouble passing the TUV. I'm not 100% sure how the testing etc works.
They are more efficient than the g60 charger , even in ported form so I could only assume it will make even more power.. similar to what a 1.8 g60 engine would make up to a point.
To 200 hp The polo engine matches the 1.8 corrado in power and maybe down 10ft lb odd in in torque due to the smaller capacity etc.
OK
Now .... 1.8 G60 will be making and extra 40 hp from stock (160hp) to make 200hp and an extra 40 ft lb.
The polo on the other hand will be making an extra 87hp and 89 ft lb from 113 hp + 111 ftlb or 115 hp and ft lb 112 if using a series 1 g40
Surely its not rocket science but would you expect the bigger engine to reap more gains? ..even ignoring the actual figures .. and just going by percentage increase!
The Polo was designed to be lightweight so it doesn't need a big nor powerful engine to be quick as it relys on PTW. The Corrado is a heavy car (comparatively) and requires the same conducive increase in cc/power to maintain a good PTW.
Yes I agree with you on this.. but the original discussion was comparing the engines an gains for modifications stated.
Personally for an everyday car, I'd rather have a Corrado G60. For a weekend toy, a Polo G40 with a wishbone conversion.
Yes I would too! I'm getting old now and i need my comfort. but a modified g40 if definately more fun!
P.S by the way this is not a stab at your points... so please do not take any comment personally, this is a forum for good disscussion