SLK32 AMG supercharger INSTALLED PICS!!!!!!!! last page!!!!!

[W3RKD 0]

The walls of the unit are 18mm solid billet so all im going to do is drill and helicoil 12mm deep and use 4x m8 fixings to mount my second bracket this will fit in the standard position of the normal g60 block mount on the right hand side.

[potatonet 0]

which block mount? the bottom rod one or the top bracket one? bracket one I am guessing.

 

that is a very simple design, I would do that but my charger is a bit different. have you already made the piece? it would work on my application as well being that I am mounting the AMG charger to a piece of solid 1/2" stock aluminum, I am using steel helicoils on all the attachment points I have just for added security.

 

I was thinking about making a bracket to attach to an 2 cm extension on the intake port for this charger. I do like your design more though. and attaching that piece to my bracket, I wouldnt be drilling the charger wall out, just the AL it sits on...

[PhatVR6 0]

My mates just fitted an Eaton blower, to an ABF in a corrado.

 

I'll see if he took any pics of it.

 

i think it put out about 200bhp.

[W3RKD 0]

My mates just fitted an Eaton blower, to an ABF in a corrado.

 

I'll see if he took any pics of it.

 

i think it put out about 200bhp.

 

Paul > Did he use the m62 unit on there ?

[PhatVR6 0]

I'm not sure what he used, he's always buying chargers off ebay.

 

could have been an M45?? possibly bigger.

 

I'll ask him tomorrow.

 

The car is that hideous blue effort with the mk4 front end and the seat cupra rear lights that we were all laughing at last year.

[potatonet 0]

Gman, eaton m62's are harder to fit I think... the M45 from a mercedes C230 W203 chassis is a common replacement and it does put out about 200 hp, 210 with some modifications, the m62 is good for about 230 hp. at about 20 psi I think... =-/ not quite sure about those numbers, some guy from nebraska did one of those and it ripped up the track....

 

PhatVR6 what is an ABF, it has escaped me at the moment. engine code? or short for something... =-/ sorry we dont have that engine code in america if it is an engine code at all.

[W3RKD 0]

there is a mouting kit available in the uk to fit a m62 on to a vw 4cyl engine from a company called aw tracksport. I have not seen the kit in person so could not comment on it but i know its available.

[potatonet 0]

you mean M45?

[samg60 0]

Be careful about the lysholm you choose as I did a bit of checking on IHI and Lysholm and I think the autorotor was a better option soley because the unit could rev much higher, I think about 15,000 continuous and 18,000 for short bursts, this may not be an issue if you arent running high boost or perhaps if you went for the higher capacity blowers and ran a larger pulley, perhaps something like the 1.2 litre type (anyone who does this on a standard g60 please let me know) autorotor 2087 (standard bahn brenner) is .89 litre.

I guess the problem of running the higher capacity blowers is the eat more bhp to drive

 

some of you may find the following excel spreadsheet useful for calculatimg bhp and the type of charger needed.

 

http://www.welshg60.demon.co.uk/Blower_Calculator.xls

 

states about 290bhp possible from m62 other engine internals allowing

[W3RKD 0]

you mean M45?

 

no.. m62 like i said.

[W3RKD 0]

Be careful about the lysholm you choose as I did a bit of checking on IHI and Lysholm and I think the autorotor was a better option soley because the unit could rev much higher, I think about 15,000 continuous and 18,000 for short bursts, this may not be an issue if you arent running high boost or perhaps if you went for the higher capacity blowers and ran a larger pulley, perhaps something like the 1.2 litre type (anyone who does this on a standard g60 please let me know) autorotor 2087 (standard bahn brenner) is .89 litre.

 

some of you may find the following excel spreadsheet useful for calculatimg bhp and the type of charger needed.

 

http://www.welshg60.demon.co.uk/Blower_Calculator.xls

 

states about 290bhp possible from m62 other engine internals allowing

 

Sam the one i hve is the autorotor OA3133..

[samg60 0]

nice one darren, this is the larger capacity charger then !, from the spreadsheet it looks like this doesnt rev as highly as the 2087 but then I guess at the higher capacity your flowing enough air at the slightly lower revs, let me know how you get on with this charger as I am thinking of a possible second project or perhaps just uprate the lysholm, as I feel the lower revs are safer. is this charger going on a g60 ?, have also read recently that the lysholm must have a cold inlet temp to reduce the risk of the charger getting hot (so I guess that may have contributed to my charger meltling the first time round) just thought the info might be useful.

[samg60 0]

Hi Darren, do you know what dimensions have changed on this autorotor compared to the 2087 as I have the silencing kit and if I do replace my current charger dont really want to have to source or make another silencer. (big headache in more ways than one)

[PhatVR6 0]

my mate said he used an M45 off a mini. only pumps out 4psi apparently!

 

ABF is the engine code for the 2.0 16v found in the mk3 golf gti 16v and the old SEAT ibiza Cupra 16v. runs on motronic fuel injection I think, 150bhp.

[potatonet 0]

samg60, your silencer kit will have to be moved ever so slightly and you will need an adapter plate to put on the old silencer tubing from BBM.

 

yes the IHI charger I am using does take more HP to run, approx 60 in the end though I dont quite believe this yet. my unit can only go up to 15k that is correct however mine should be easier to spin than darrens being that my screws weigh less and have less friction, hollowed out lobes and teflon coating. ( dont know if it will make too much of a difference being that I have an electromagnetic clutch to spin as well.

 

gman sorry about the m62, m45 conversion, their website uses an m45 thats why I thought it was that.

 

PhatVR6, ty for the infrmation. so a 2.0L from a jetta 16V or a passat 16V here in the states?

 

"from the spreadsheet it looks like this doesnt rev as highly as the 2087 but then I guess at the higher capacity your flowing enough air at the slightly lower revs, let me know how you get on with this charger"

 

mine spins at lower revs too, increased output = 25psi @ safe charger rpms (10~11000) for me while I am at 6k @ engine.

 

 

can anyone confirm the cold inlet temp theory? I talked to John at BBM and the only reason he has seen his lysholms fail is blocked oil inlets and incorrect mounting....

[samg60 0]

I think Sprintex or some one found that when the charegr was sucking in hot air from the engine bay taht it was contributing to the rotors getting too hot inside and causing failure.

[potatonet 0]

interesting, can I route the intake over the top of the charger or is this a bad idea? do I HAVE to mount it in front of the charger, so that air from outside hits it?

[samg60 0]

I think routing over the top of the charger is fine, I had my air filter near the fan and it was sucking in hot air, I know most people arent likely to make this mistake but thought it was worth a mention

[potatonet 0]

yeah no I realize thats a bad idea, I am routing it to the same spot it was before VIA custom made piping.

[potatonet 0]

G-man, when you mentioned 42 lb. injectors what is the part number (bosch) that you were reffering too?

 

and correct me if Im wrong but this is 42 lb. @ 3 bar not 42 lb @ 3.5 bar?

 

having a bit of difficulty dealing with these stupid mercedes people, they dont know left from right when it comes to talking about pulley sizes and lubrication for a supercharger that spins @ 15k rpms.

[W3RKD 0]

Have you got the unit yet ?

[potatonet 0]

no g-man I havent, I get the unit today @ 3 PM pacific standard time. I will post pics when I get home from work as I have work till ~10:30

[potatonet 0]

pics of the charger:

 

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what I dont understand though is there are no lines for oil feed and return, I believe that I have to use some ridiculous engineered synthetic mercedes stuff thats 50 dollars a liter that just sits in the charger.

 

{edit} I did the math, it puts out 1.4 liters per revolution, yikes Im gonna have some boost to control..... will my headgasket hold up.... I dunno...

 

{edit #2} not 1.4 only about 1.2 I think MAYBE more... I dunno I need the stock pulley size, using the output I got from some website I get 1.2 with the upgrade kit by brabus.

 

the pulley size on this supercharger is 3" almost exactly, John @ BBM told me to use a bracket from an ABA 2.0L 8V engine, dunno if it is gonna work... G-man?

 

I would have to MASSIVELY cut the current bracket and I dont really want to...

 

my drive ratio is low though only 1.75 with my 5.25" pulley on my car, I cannot change the size of this pulley being that it has an EM clutch built into it.

 

G-man, how many liters are you running and are you using forged pistons or cast? I have a bone stock G60 engine here... =-/ besides the cam.

[potatonet 0]

hey darren can I have a 3" intake and a 2.5" outlet? or does that not work?

[samg60 0]

intake is fine being 3" and 2.5" outlet remember teh charger is just sucking in what it needs. my intake is about 90mm and the outlet about 2.5" although it does go to 2.25" at one point.