munkay 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Will be getting stage 4 rebuilt / chip and pulley soon and had a few queries :) Already have powerflow custom exhaust decatted and Green induction soooo... 1) Should I notice a big/worthwhile increase in power...like is it immediately apparent they shift? 2) What effect will it have on the torque/power curve/band on the revs? 3) What else should I get done other than oil feed cleaned/replaced? (ie intercooler cleaned etc..) (getting it removed and sent to Jabba by local German garage so hoses etc wil be done there) 4) Where did I leave my other set of car keys? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Hello MUNKAY I have had the stg 4 charger and pulley fitted to my C with the same mods I have a powerflow de catted exhaust system, green induction kit when I had the jabba chip and pulley fitted last august the first thing you will notice is that the induction noise at idle is alot louder the acceleration will feel more punchy and generally it will pull alot harder than what it used to. I had mine rolling roaded at the same time just after having the chip and pulley fitted and it produced 202bhp @ the flywheel which I was well chuffed with!! If you want your I/C cleaned there was a thread on here not so long ago I think it was nigel G60Jet that started the thread i think he took his off and cleaned it with a de greaser in the end to get all the c*ap out of it!! Another worthwhile mod to think about is the isv reroute which basically means that you remove the boost return pipe from the charger you can either blank the inlet off or have a collar made (like me) and run a second induction kit. with the crankcase (rocker breather) hose you feed that to the bottom of a swirl pot and the top feed goes to the isv unit. This will prevent the loss of any boost and probably give you more boost to play with. I haven't fitted it yet but will be fitting it this week as all the parts are almos ready to be fitted to my motor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Cool thanks for all the info :) Mine was rolling roaded in December giving 163 at flywheel so hopefully it has a good starting base. Do you notice a really big diff in acceleration then? more noise eh? hehe mine is so bloody loud as it is.....has a 5" rear pipe :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 17, 2003 The intercooler clean out makes things noiser too!! you can hear the air moving around its really cool!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 18, 2003 What about acceleration?? :) Big differences? :) Reckon these chips are better than Jabbas ones? Jabba works out about 250 for chip and pulley..these are cheaper and claim to be better getting rid of that damn lag.....anyone have an info on them? http://www.pitstopdevelopments.com/parts.phtml?s=chip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Yeah you'll notice from the bottem end the acceleration is magic!!! If your having the stg4 rebuild at the same time you'll need to bed it in for at least 400 miles by not taking it over 2500rpm but once you've done that you'll notice a big difference in acceleration. I had my charger done 2 years ago and then opted for the chip and pulley last year so the charger was already bedded in when I had the chip and pulley fitted so I could give it some down the motorway :D Great fun!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pau1 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Hi Munkay, Spoke to Roddy yesterday and he mentioned your new purchase, well done. Send me a email if you'd like to come for a blast and I'll show you the difference the Stage 4 can make. All the best on future Corrado'ing... Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 18, 2003 Yeah you'll notice from the bottem end the acceleration is magic!!! If your having the stg4 rebuild at the same time you'll need to bed it in for at least 400 miles by not taking it over 2500rpm but once you've done that you'll notice a big difference in acceleration. I had my charger done 2 years ago and then opted for the chip and pulley last year so the charger was already bedded in when I had the chip and pulley fitted so I could give it some down the motorway :D Great fun!!!! I had my charger done by jabba at xmas and they said you must run it in for 400miles and DO NOT exceed 4000rpm (2500rpm is very low and very slow). I have just completeed 600km (400m ish about 40kilometers to go) on my new charger, i shall not be thrashing it just yet, im gonna take it easy and easy up the engine speed over the next few hundred Ks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 18, 2003 I had my charger done by jabba at xmas and they said you must run it in for 400miles and DO NOT exceed 4000rpm (2500rpm is very low and very slow). I have just completeed 600km (400m ish about 40kilometers to go) on my new charger, i shall not be thrashing it just yet, im gonna take it easy and easy up the engine speed over the next few hundred Ks. Sorry my mistake just had a look at the reciept it was 4000rpm your right nige!! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 18, 2003 Sorry my mistake just had a look at the reciept it was 4000rpm your right nige!! :D :lol: do you realise what speed you get up to in 5th gear at 2500rpm, if you could get it into 5th!!! about 40km-h for a guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 18, 2003 How about these chips to: http://www.pitstopdevelopments.com/parts.phtml?s=chip Works out cheaper than Jabba who are 250 for chip and pulley. Anyone got one of these? the riddance of lag would be nice but are they any different to Jabba ones? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Your on the right track munkay I was going to point out there are other chips available for the G60 what I have found with the Jabba chip is that it runs the car very rich all the time I ve got a emmisions tester at home and have tried to alter the co content coming out of the exhaust with not alot of sucess the best I have managed to get it down to is 3.2%co which is quite rich and would fail in the emmisions test in a mot. It should run between 1.0% and 1.5% so I ve been told with a maximum of 3%. I have recently been thinking of upgrading the chip to a Bahn brenner chip and uprated FPR but I have heard that the SNS chip is alot better due to the no digi lag so I will have to look into it a bit more before I commit myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 18, 2003 you reacon we could get a group buy on these chips? I'd be up for it as i need a new map for the hotter spanish climate!!, not sure about it not being done on the rolling road though!! Surly one mapped on the rollers would be "tunned for your engine" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 18, 2003 I would be up for it so long as I got some more info proving or explaining why/how they are better than Jabbas...not just the sales blurb on the website The idea of no lag is very appealing :) My golf gti had exact same prob to what with digi etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 18, 2003 I must say i've got my questions on the lag too (becasue i dont understand it i think) Now i hope i can explain this well. Surley a kompressor works better when the speed is increased slowly rather than quickly, as this allows it to increase the flow in and out without "choking it". with the digi lag you can't get a g60 to the same boost by booting it, as if you wind it up slowly (more progressivly than putting your foot straight to the floor), and believe me i've tried. My G60 takes of like a rocket if i press the gas at a moderate rate rather than striaght to the floor. Anyone else notice this!! Now is this different with out the lag. I dont see it as the engine still has to build speed before the compressor generates boost (well a large positive boost pressure in the manifold) So on a G60 is there any point? Im not questioning the chip but, someone please explain this one!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Yeah thats so true! Dont floor it....if you are going along say at 30...then gradually push foot to floor...they really take off I dont mind it to much as it sort off gives the car character hehe :) But I guess it would be nice to have to have the power there all the time. Does anyone from pitstop developments frequent these forums?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted February 19, 2003 Hi Munkay, Spoke to Roddy yesterday and he mentioned your new purchase, well done. Send me a email if you'd like to come for a blast and I'll show you the difference the Stage 4 can make. All the best on future Corrado'ing... Paul and i'm i not getting to come for a blast either paul :?: :lol: :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon TDI 0 Posted February 19, 2003 I've been reading alot of threads on the VWVortex site & SNS really do know their stuff when it comes to the G60 engine, especially the ECU chip. The way I see it, is that when you are at WOT the Digifant system doesn't richen up the mixture for a second or so, in fact it runs leans! Most chips are just altered ignition settings & maybe fuelling curves aswell, but they don't get rid of this digi lag. SNS have cracked this digi lag code. But to make this work you'll need a 3.5bar FPR. I'm definately up for a group buy on this chip. (I going to get one anyway, when I can afford it) I'm sure Dubcharged can elaberate on this!! How about some discount on a group buy?? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 19, 2003 I had a good long chat with him about it on MSN. Definitely seems the way to go. Just have to find a bosch supplier for the FPR now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 19, 2003 I had a good long chat with him about it on MSN. Definitely seems the way to go. Just have to find a bosch supplier for the FPR now. where is banana man he'll sort it for ya!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 19, 2003 you mean me!! :D try bahn brenner motorsport for the FPR they're about £60 or you can try darren at PD Motorsport he might have one kicking around it's actually off a porsche 944 turbo if you can find one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted February 19, 2003 does that mean cannot get them thenBANANA MAN, cost bbm or expensive to get stuff from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted February 19, 2003 Cant get a porsche fuel pressure regs at work were a motor factors not a motor specialist we only carry day to day stuff!!! :) how about euro car parts they do stuff for porsches or scrappy. I dont really know as I haven't looked into it yet too much other stuff going on in my life at the mo I will be needing one soon though as a new chip and cam change will be comming shortly so I will be looking around for them matybe in a month or so!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 19, 2003 I can get them from a bosch dealer in glasgow. part number: 0 280 160 263 They ship direct from germany for 3 day delivery. cost 43 quid all inc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munkay 0 Posted February 19, 2003 Just be out in Pau1's '16v' corrado ;) Its pretty damn impressive...I am sold :) now where can I get a dump valve ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
