Replacement for Bora - SAAB bought today

[Andy665 0]

Bora has unexpectedly been collected this morning, now need a replacement quickly.

 

Two choices:

 

1. BMW 528i (192bhp) SE Touring manual reg'd Jul 99 - metallic silver, full BMWSH, sat nav, rear dvd system, Xenons, beige sports leather seats, 126k on the clock, absolutely immaculate, price new was 48k, will come with 12 months MOT, 12 months tax - £4,000

 

or

 

2. Saab 9-5 2.3 Aero Estate (250bhp) auto, reg'd 2000, full Saab SH, leather metallic silver, cruise etc, 49k on the clock, again absolutely immaculate, will come with warranty and 12 months MOT - £4600

 

or

 

3. Saab 9-5 2.3 Aero Estate (250bhp), manual, reg'd 1999, full Saab SH, dark met blue, leather, cruise etc, 115k on the clock, 12 months MOT, 12 months warranty £3,900

 

Just arranged to see a car that I hadn't previously considered - mind you they did only make 155 of them - 2000 plate Mondeo ST200 estate - absolute mint by all accounts - only 2 owners and 41k from new

[coolrado 0]

how much is the other saab going for?

[__Andy__ 0]

either of the saabs 8)

 

my old man had a 520i se touring form new and literally as soon as the 3 year warranty ran out he had no end of problems with it, rear suspension packed up whilst he was in ireland and he wasnt a happy bunny.

 

go for a saab, be a bit differnt.....

[timg60 0]

Manual saab for me..........

[Andy665 0]

Higher mileage Saab is up at £3900 but bloke selling it is a top bloke, independant Saab specialist who has been happy to give me lots of advice and guidance. Seems like a well maintained Saab 9-5 will go to the moon and back, he runs an identical car that has just clocked quarter of a million miles and is still on original turbo and clutch

[Sonicriot13 0]

Manual saab for me..........

 

:iamwithstupid: - Not implying that you're stupid of course timg60 :)

[vwdeviant 0]

Playing Devil's :

 

 

Had a Sabb 9000 and was the biggest pile of Cr@p I have ever owned... I got fed up of fixing it and just drove it into the ground.. had only done 125k when scrapped too...

 

Mostly cooling and inj issues.... oh and a snapped front Coil spring "forced me to lower it" as well that was the best thing I ever did as it drove like a super-tanker...

 

I doubt I'd ever put my own money into a Saab ever again.. and if you think VAG spares are expensive... :shock: I spent so much time in Scrappies pulling parts off wrecked 9000's...

[12 DEG BEN 0]

Been looking at a 9-5 for myself as a daily workhorse. Lots of car for the money. Plus if its a late car you would think they would have worked all the faults out of it. It is different in a good way. Also its still one of the safest cars on the road today. I argued at a merc garage about which car got 5 stars in the euro ncap test. S class merc or a saab 9-5. Either way it gives you good odds in a smash. Also some diesels come with a programmable aux heater so no more cold car mornings. Look out for lcd readouts going wrong. happened to just about all or them.

[coolrado 0]

I would also go for the Manual Saab I dont really like the look of the saloon version but the estate is quite a nice looking car.

The two people i know who have owned SAAB's didn't have a bad word to say about them, both old SAAB 900 turbo's one had 150k on it and still drove like new without a single fault in the two years he owned it, apart from cracking the turbo and bending the exhaust after he reversed it into a high curb :lol: , and the other one had 270k on the clock and the only things it had wrong with it in the two years he owned it where worn out suspension bushes and a couple of dodgy injectors.

The newer SAAB's seem to have lost the old man stigma they used to have but i dont think you can say the same about BMW loosing its tosser stigma :lol: . although the estate version also looks nicer than the saloon version IMO

[mrbeige 0]

The Manual Aero would be my choice.

 

Who is the Saab Dealer by the way?

[davidwort 0]

I'd be aware that the pre 2001 9-5's shared a bit too much in common with the Vauxhall Vectra, after 2001 they made enough changes for them to handle reasonably.

[Andy665 0]

Been to have a look at the lower mileage auto Saab this afternoon as a benchmark - very clean and tidy but the auto is definitely not for me - also the dealer was just a used car dealer, prefer to buy from a specialist to be honest.

 

Gives me a good guide for when I look at the higher mileage manual Aero on Saturday afternoon though :lol:, this is the place I'm looking to buy from - just put down a refundable deposit on the car to secure it until Sat

 

http://www.tradesaab.co.uk/

[Sonicriot13 0]

refundable deposit

 

So they do exist then? :lol:

 

There's some nice cars on that site. Sound like decent guys. Did they work with Saab before setting up on their own?

[Andy665 0]

Yes, both partners are from a Saab main dealer background, spent an hour on the phone today - came across as very decent.

 

Said that Saabs tend to be owned by people who don't want to drive the default choice BMW, Audi and Mercedes. Apparently Saab have the highest customer retention rate of any manufacturer in the UK and that they tend to be kept for longer and for higher mileages than other comparable cars.

[paul20v 0]

manual saab dont like the stigma that goes with a bmw and at least you might stand half a chance of getting out of a side street in a saab :D

[Andy665 0]

Just pulled this list of Saab mileages from one of the Saab forums, some really big numbers on some pretty late model cars :lol:

 

1. Andy (b8alk): 1995 GM 900 SE TURBO COUPE 2.0 =100,000 MILES

2. arum (arumdevil): 1988 classic 900 T16 3dr 2.0 = 250,000 miles!!!

3. Zaphod Gracie 1973 96 V4 10,400 miles (that's not a mistype)

4. Zaphod Swiftmobile 1998 2.0 litre turbo auto converto 49,800 miles.

5. Scotty Mc 9-3 TiD - 135,000

6. Scotty Mc 99 Turbo - 45,000

7. ToneDepear 9-3 TiD - 90,000

8. ToneDepear 1985 90 - 108,279

9. Fliptopbin: c900 T16S - 147,000

10. Soulhand 9000 Anni - 156,000 (updated 2/5)

11. Soulhand 1992 c900 - 163,000 (updated 2/5)

12.Dhekalia 1996 900S 77,000 miles

13.Baronbradders '89 T16s 201,000

14.Baronbradders '92 9000 225,000

15.Saabstudent '92 T16s 155,050

16.Peterbonney - 9-3 2.0i "Vert", 68,000

17. BlueSaab 1990 900i16v 169,000. '94 9000 Cse Lpt 116,000

18. Myk (Oberon) '96 9000 cs lpt 146,653

19. Saul 1990 c900 T16 - 213,000

20. i want an aero 1998 9-5 134,000

21. Darrylstrong '90 C900 183,000

22. BillJ '94 9000 CSE 173,000

23. BillJ '96 9000 Aero 203,000

24. BillJ '91 900 T16S 179,000

25. BillJ 1985 90 108,279 (tee-hee)

26. Parish '02 9-3 SE 101,605

27. sgould '02 9-5 Aero 82,000

28. MaryB(Mrs sg) '02 9-3SS 20,000

29. Saabsational '00 9-5 114,500

29b. Saabsational '89 c900i 111,000

30. Jimmy wynn '99 9-5 Aero 186,000

31. Gadgetgricey '94 Gm900 Conv 104,000

32. AdvancedRoadcraft '92 9000 186,181

33. Ben '89 900 16VS 192,000

34. Cheq '92 9000CSE 2.3 Turbot 202,000

35. Oldman '00 9-5 58,265

36. Trig 9000se 2.3T 180,000

37. Trig 9000Aero 185,000

38. Trig 9000 Anniversary lpt 78,000

39. Trig 900 se 2.3 130,000

40. Nev '00 9-5 Aero 87,877

41. Nev '90 900 Carlsson 180,447

42. Starfish 9000 FPT 2.3 Anniversary - 201,000

43. IanD '97 900S 148,297

44. jaydoubleyou '87 900 8v 106,000

45. Craigdeluxe '92 900 SE lpt 152,000

46. Ropes64 '92 900 S Aero - 169,000

47. Ropes64 '93 900 SE - 100,000

48. Ropes64 '96 NG 900 SE Turbo Coupe - 117,000

49. ylee's aeromonster 255,000

50. son_of _a_coyote 900 t16s 212,000

51. other_son_of_a_coyote cs carly 223,000

52. chief_coyote 9-3ss 'vert 14,000

53. Paddy2bsure '98 9-5 2.0 Auto 125,000

54. mrd2525 1992 CD Carlsson 206000

55. mrd2525 1997 9000 Aero 200000

56. mrd2525 1990 900 Carlsson 216000

57. mrd2525 1987 900T16S convertible 166000 summer use only...

58. Paco 2002 9-5 Aero 101,952

59. Peterdon 2006 9-3sc Aero 15000

60. Peterdon 1997 9000CSE Anni 161000 - now business partner's

61. Microcat36 1995 9000 3.0 V6 Auto Griffin 134,000

62. Microcat36 1995 9000 3.0 V6 CSE Auto 98,000

63. Microcat36 1995 9000 3.0 V6 CSE Auto 87,000 (getting head gasket done)

64. Microcat36 1993 9000 2.3 FPT CSE Auto 218,000

65. Microcat36 1991 9000 2.0i CSE 177,000

66. Microcat36 1983 900 t8 92,000

67. Microcat36 1989 900 t16 115,000

68. TFatC c900 Carly 178,000

69. TFatC 9000 n/a CSE 204,000

70. AdamH '99 9-5 2.3SE 118,000

71. dg22's 93 - 52,856

72. Fred900 '92 900XS 174,000

73. Stuart 1996 9000 Aero 120,000

74. Owen 1993 c900T16s 173,400

75. LoganSaab MY96 9000 Lpt (tweaked) CSE Auto 110,000

76. Ade9-3 2002 9-3 TID 138,151

77. Hugh '97 NG 900 SE T 109,579

78. Ed (tedward_9000) '93 9000 LPT 144,410

79. Ed (tedward_9000) '95 9000 Aero 141,362

80.GrahamL 2stroke96, 1963, 29,800

81.GrahamL 99GL , 1983, 151,000

82.GrahamL 9000S-2.3, 1991, 83,200

83. Heli '75 95V4 - circa 130,000 (clocks buried somewhere in the "shed")

84. Heli '78 99 Turbo - 131,000

85. Heli '96 9000 Aero - 120,000

86. Heli '01 9-5 Aero Wagon - 41,000.

87. Billie S. 96 NG900 SET 178,800

88. Greenphotos 2002 9-5 Vector 133,000

89. Saabbhoy 1997 900cse 106,300

90. Drivebuy 1996 S Vert - 82,000 clicks!

91. Nutcase 1983 99 GL - 177,771 (as of 31/8/06). I forget what the turbo has done, about 83,000.

92. Rich B '88 900 T16 Conv - 220500

93. 99turboman 79 99 turbo 3dr - 155,000

94. 99turboman 83 900 turbo 5dr- 156,000

95. 99turboman 87 900 turbo 3dr US spec - 102000

96. 99turboman 88 900 turbo T16S Conv - 94,000

97. 99turboman 89 900 turbo 2dr Aero - 216,000

98. 99turboman 91 9000 CDE 2.3 - 196,000

99. 99turboman 92 900 turbo 3dr Aero - 174,000

100. 99turboman 96 9000 2.3 FPT CSE - 98,000

101. 99turboman 97 900GM 2.0T - 119,000

102. 99turboman 98 900GM 2.0 S - 153,000 ( + works maestro with

191,000 miles )

103. Twinkle 01 95 - 138,000

104. Mr Toes 99 95 Grif - 110,000

105. Rols - 51 93 Hot Aero - 78,441

106. Sarge '97 9000CSE 2.3lpt 126,000

107. 900V6 - '95 900Se 2.5V6 97900 miles.

108. johnh- 1998 9-5 2.3LPT 142,000

109. georgen - 1995 GM 900 SE COUPE 2.0 FPT - 100,125 Miles

110. susie40 - 1997 900S Convertible 81,000 miles

111. heavy_t - 1987 900i 4-door 95,000 miles

112. macpilot 1994 9000 2.3 lpt 192320 (bought with 191k on clock !)

113. Inspector Gadget 1989 C900i 141410

114. Inspector Gadget 1993 C900 Ruby 175492

115. Aero919 (Ric) 9000 Carlsson 281000

116. maude_wynn - 1998 9-5 - 120,000

117. pda 1987 T8 123500

118. 900TURBO - 1994 GM 900 SE 2.0ltr Turbo -177,000

119. tommo2105 - 2000 9-5 2.0 SE - 159,000

120. sheer_saabing_pleasure (model??) ...152,235

121. the capitan 90(0?) carlsson 191,000 miles

122. DarkStarr: 2001 9-3 Cab 80,000 miles

123. Jim & Martin: 1985 900i - 131,150 miles

124. SaabExe: '89 2.0 C900 T8 Special = 163,693 miles

125.berna_wynn: '89 2.0 900i 113,000 miles

126.Chris-k 2005 95 2.0t vector estate 17.000

127. Slammed 66 '88 T16S 167,000

128. Tone Depear '86 900 Tii 144,444

129. Techno '93 9000 Aero 164,000 miles young

130. Si '88 900 Turbo S, just hit 180K

131. Si '95 900 XS 245+K

132. Daffd C900 T16 '87 237,000

133. Sgt. Pinback '93 900S RagTop: 270,982 miles

135 Dr Paul C900 T8 '89 54,000 miles

136 Dr Paul 9000CSE 2.3 FPT '95 113,500 miles

137 Dr Paul C900 8V '90 87,000 miles

138 MikeHewitt 1990 9000 Carlsson 200,008 miles

139 John-saab 1985 8v C900 turbo 82,000 miles

140 john-saab 1962 bullnose 96 54,000 miles (genuine)

141 john-saab 1985 8v C900i 102,000 miles

142 Saab Workshop 9000CS full turbo 304000 (1 owner - stunning s/h)

143 bigjl '98 9-5 2.0 SE 134740 miles

144 Sausage 1995 GM 900 SE TURBO COUPE 2.0 - 107800 miles

145 Mikeloadsasaabs 1994 9000CSE 2.3t 162,000

146 Mikeloadsasaabs 1999 9-5 2.0t (192bhp) 169,500

147.keanan06 2002 aero HOT 122,000

148 Trollbooster 1989 T16S 139 000

149 Trollbooster 1975 96V4 28 200 (not a typo)

150 Trollbooster 1995 CSE 200 402

151 Trollbooster 1981 900GL 42 000 or so

152 Trollbooster 1991 900 'vert 131000

153 Trollbooster 2001 9-3 110 000 (almost forgot I had that one )

154 Dazzo 1996 9K Aero 180,000

155 leon 1989 900i auto lux 3dr 245,000

156 ianrobbo 1989 T16S 201,000

157 Nic Cooper 900 Carlsson 260,976

158 Nic Cooper 900 anniversary 279183 but has done 10,000 more clock change

159 Steve Lewis 900 2 door t16s 199,000

160 tobyfield 1998 9000 Anniversary 2.3FPT 103,900

161 big_ginge21 - 1996 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT - 110,196

162 Zelandeth - 1988 900i 8v 2 door Automatic - 124,350

163 Turbonut - DAN 982V 99 Turbo 169,532

164 Turbonut - B600 SVR C900 T16 Aero 134,020

165 Nomad - '07 9-3 54 Miles

166 900TURBO - 1994 NG900Turbo SE-179000

167 AndyD - 1990 900i 3dr 135,000

168 AndyD - 1996 9000 cse turbo 182,561

169 JG - 1997 9000 CS lpt Auto 90,000

170 CHRISE900T 900SE TURBO '97 95000

171 Jim & Martin - 1993 9000CSE 2.3 Turbo. 150'250

172 GriffIan - 1999 9-5 Griffin 91,500

173 ColdestMoon - 2001 9-3 2.0T 104,993

174 MUI7087 - 1996 900 SE 128,750

175 S16AAB - 1997 9-3 SE (HOT) 56,210

176 S26AAB - 1997 9-3 SE 68,000

177 Petrol_blue - 2001 9-5 Aero 62,000

178 MrMoonyMan - 1989 900 T16s 130,000

179 Lukey - 2000 9-3 Lpt man S 107,800 miles

180 CS_Carlsson - 1991 9000 CS Carlsson 168,000 miles

181 the capitan c900 carlsson red 119,400

182 Sausage - 1999 9-3 SE Sport Coupe 143091

183 Pug205GRD - 1994 9000 CDE 2.0LPT? 101,971k 30k of this done in the last 10 years!

184 saaby 1988 8v turbo silver 149,863_________________

185.Steve9000Aero-1996- Just broken her first 80,000 miles in.

186.Mrs 9000Aero's C900 Ruby 135,000 miles.

187.Mrs 9000Aero's 1990 C900 Convertible 146,000 miles.

188.Saab_9-3_Boy - 2000 9-3 lpt SE Turbo 5 DR Hatch Met Blue 129,000 miles

189.Aero919 1990 9000 Carlsson No.1 210734 miles (50K since March 2006) clutch gone today!

190 Aero919 1997 9000 Aero 173000 miles

191 Rippling 1995 9000 aero 185000

192 Elvira 1996 900s 150000 miles

193 Gaz_Tid 2001 Tid silver 92000 miles

194 fiverankins (mrs) 1996 NG900 35.000 miles

195 fiverankins 1992 900 vert 121.000 miles

196 robinmorley 2000 9-5 Aero wagon 139,000 miles

197 demic77 1991 900i SE 149000 miles

[Sonicriot13 0]

115. Aero919 (Ric) 9000 Carlsson 281000

 

:shock: Muh?

[Andy665 0]

You obviously missed number 142

142 Saab Workshop 9000CS full turbo 304000 (1 owner - stunning s/h)

[12 DEG BEN 0]

Get yourself into the 3 litre dirty diesel version. Bet the torque monster shifts whilst being smooth at the same time.

[Andy665 0]

Not a diesel lover and as car will be only be doing 8-9k per year the fuel saving argument isn't there either.

[Sonicriot13 0]

You obviously missed number 142

142 Saab Workshop 9000CS full turbo 304000 (1 owner - stunning s/h)

 

Yeah, I did miss that. :lol: Bl**dy hell. The old girl is doing well!

 

Sounds like they're indestructible if looked after well. You might be on to a winner there mate.

[Andy665 0]

Damned Pistonheads classifieds has thrown up another car for consideration that I'm now going to view before the Saab tomorrow - pretty rare, not got a great badge on the nose but is very highly regarded and the car itself looks like an absolute minter - nice V6 in it too

[DIGGER B 0]

It has to be the bmw for me andy that year model 5 series is a fantastic car and if u can get it loaded with a fsh its a bargain :) IMO

[Andy665 0]

Viewed and bought a Saab today

 

2000 W plate 9-5 Estate, 2.3T Aero - so just the 250bhp to play with

 

Full Saab service history and absolutely immaculate both inside and out. 115k on the clock but you'd never tell, either from the way it looks or the way it drives.

 

Full cream heated leather, CD, alarm, all round electric windows, r/c locking, trip computer, cruise control, electronic dual zone climate control etc

 

Trader would not budge on price but did say it would come with a full MOT, he'll get the only dent I could find popped out, 12 months warranty, 6 months tax and a full tank of fuel

 

All in all not a bad buy for £3,900

[TheWizardofOdds 0]

Good work, my man. That's a cracker, great price too.