stevie_f_2004 0 Posted April 6, 2008 As th etitle says are these any good compared to VW.......there's about £80 price difference and was wondering if it really is worth it to buy OEM...(purchased a heater matrix from GSF recently and it was the same as OEM) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 South 0 Posted April 6, 2008 I fitted an ECP one about five years ago and it's still going strong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 6, 2008 nooooooooooooooooooooo, the 16v one is ass!! doesn't sit on the cross-member / rad support beam properly, the pins underneath don't line up with the holes. I'd go 2nd hand for a genuine if you're looking to replace, shouldn't be too hard to find? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted April 6, 2008 Personally i'd buy a VW one. I got a pattern part radiator for my valver last year sometime - yes it was cheap, but as I was fitting the new radiator fan switch, despite taking lots of care, the soft metal thread in the radiator started strip out and the fan switch never sealed properly. I ended up ditching it and buying a real VAG one. To be honest the quality of the pattern one seemed ok - but I have always believed in 'you gets whats you pay for' - and I feel that very strongly about GSF stuff in general! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarlet_vr6 0 Posted April 6, 2008 I've had a pattern part one for a while and has been fine so far (fingers crossed...), at least I assume it's a cheap one since it was replaced by my local garage :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 6, 2008 Screwfix do some nice chrome ones... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Maybe pattern VR rads are better than the 16v items then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolrado 0 Posted April 7, 2008 A mate of mine fitted a GSF rad to his Mk 2 16v gti and it kept blowing seals and popping pipes, after a while he discovered the small recirculation pipe at the top of the radiator was actually moulded over inside the radiator and was completely blocked, it was fine after he drilled it out. so it seems they are not the best quality, its always worth checking out local radiator companies as they may have a better one in stock or will be able to make you one up for a decent price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 7, 2008 yeah my experiences are on my mk2 16v also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted April 7, 2008 pretty much same experience as Jim for me, but I did eventually get the fan switch to seal said this a lot of times before, but the 16v pattern ones are not the proper 16v items, i.e. they don't have as many cores as a proper VAG one, having said that it does cope ok on my 16v, although I find the fan has to work a bit harder in traffic. rather than spending 50-60 quid on a pattern one I would recommend getting a VAG one for around 100 (if you can get 10% or so trade discount) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 7, 2008 CCGB discount is 15%, or at least it is at my local dealer. Agree that radiators are a dealer-only job, but as I always still suppor the underdog (to an extent!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 7, 2008 The main thing is the genuine (UK made) Marsden rads have more fins and are much more efficient at cooling these engines... My G60 is still on the original 15 year old one and my mums MK3, now 10 years old still looks new Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted April 7, 2008 i just got a new VW one for a VR6, is £188 including tax before any discounts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevie_f_2004 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Thanks for the feedback....I'll put the old one back on and get a VW radiator when fund permit...£188 is a fair chunk of cash when I'm already sitting with £450++ worth of parts in the process of being fitted!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted April 7, 2008 But at least it'll probably be a fit and forget item for the time you own the car - I personally wouldn't say the same about any GSF item. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 7, 2008 LOL, not sure why Jim but I get the distinct impression you're not the world's biggest fan of factors? :scratch: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 7, 2008 LOL, not sure why Jim but I get the distinct impression you're not the world's biggest fan of factors? :scratch: It's just experience matey - you change 8-12 year old parts for new pattern stuff, it lasts another 2 years if your lucky then you go back to genuine - you'll learn :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 8, 2008 I was being sarcastic but thanks! I'm not getting back into this (again) but I've used pattern parts on past Mk2's fine, although I don't like their radiators. Did I mention that? I learn just fine thanks, getting A's at the mo :cheers: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted April 8, 2008 From personal experience, the only pattern parts that seem worth the bother are Febi ones, which are excellent quality. I would only buy a rad from VW though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
was8v 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Another vote for using genuine parts for critical bits. I've had cheap waterpumps fail in 4 months and wheel bearings fail in 6 months. Just not worth the aggro of replacing AGAIN for the sake of a few quid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve @ 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Had to replace my non-gen copper rad last year, it had lasted a whole 2 1/2 years. Replaced with a gen Aluminium rad, the quality is so much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites