24v into an auto, alternative autobox

[fla 9]

Just been thinking about this - i do like the auto, just feel like an engine swop, when funds permit of course. Whilst mine's only got about 59k on it its something more on te longevity/efficicency side of things i'm considering.

I know you can pick up 24v plus bits for around £1k, but as the auto ecu piggy-backs off the main ecu would this cause any issues? Or, is there a mor modern auto box, perhaps on the Mk4 Golf that could be used? Did the Mk4 even come with an auto?

I'm looking at a ready-to-swop 24v setup, with the option of pulling out the dash and installing the Mk4/5 dash at a later stage.

BUT, i want to keep the auto....

[Roger Blassberg 0]

Well, when you do it Hassan, let me know and I would be interested in your low-mileage and well-fettled ABV.

 

Best wishes

 

RB

[SamG40 0]

Yep something I would be interested in too. The 24v route would be tempting if something major happened to the 12v but I've wondered about the auto box issues too. TBH it wouldnt hurt if there was a better box, its hardly the best autobox out there.

[vr6storm 0]

somebody say DSG :dorky:

[fla 9]

somebody say DSG :dorky:

 

something i'd thought of, but ideally i would literally want to pull out the 12V and throw in the 24V, with a better autobox. I think DSG might be too involved for me, i would want to have it running as well as it does now in a week max.

Roger, you'd be surprised i've already had a few emails for the engine and i'm just thinking about the engine swop!

sam you're right about the autobox, it is not efficient, you can feel teh power being sapped in lower gears, even though mine has had fresh fluid a new filter and i've checked the solenoids too. Its as good as it ever would be, nice and smooth, just inefficient.

If i could have afforded Pete Griff's engine setup that's what i would have definitely taken, although that is a step higher at 3.2 litres 8)

[SamG40 0]

For me a DSG would be awesome. As well as the autos ineffeciencies (Sp) I just dont like the lack of control. It changes up when you want to go just that little bit faster and plunges you forward and then dosent always downshift as much as I would like. Maybe I'm being too demanding and I have learnt to drive around it to a point but I'll never get on with it like a manual, plus as you say you can feel it sap power, it does for me anyway unless you just floor it, then it still leaps forward but you cant do that all the time.

 

Anyway back on topic, I'm assuming no-one has even considered this before, which is why I've never bothered enquiring about it before. Has the mk4 R32 got any sort of auto option on it?

[fla 9]

For me a DSG would be awesome. As well as the autos ineffeciencies (Sp) I just dont like the lack of control. It changes up when you want to go just that little bit faster and plunges you forward and then dosent always downshift as much as I would like. Maybe I'm being too demanding and I have learnt to drive around it to a point but I'll never get on with it like a manual, plus as you say you can feel it sap power, it does for me anyway unless you just floor it, then it still leaps forward but you cant do that all the time.

 

Anyway back on topic, I'm assuming no-one has even considered this before, which is why I've never bothered enquiring about it before. Has the mk4 R32 got any sort of auto option on it?

 

i think you can put an adaptation into it to delay the gear change - i'm not too clued up on VAGCOM on that side of hings to know how to do this though.

Also, does anyone know if the 4motion had an auto option and if so, how would this be adapted to the corrado ecu? Or would it be better to use all the 4motion electronics? Worst case i would install the 2.8 and leave teh exisiting auto as a later stage project. Ziderapple, are you looking to sell your engine separately??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[WigsVR6 0]

I might be barking up the wrong tree here but my mate as an Eos its a 3.2 coupled to an auto box with flappy paddle control too not sure if its DSG though but even in this setup its fast as fook

[The_Dude 0]

There is a German fella who's posted on here that has a DSG G60...took it from an A3 iirc...have a search, i can't be bothered! :D

[fla 9]

I may have to rethink my plans on the auto, as i cant seem to find any good auto boxes. So what are the impications of a 24v plus manual as a swap? Plus prices - i know you can pick the engine from around £500, perhaps the gearbox etc for 200 or so with all the pedal box and gubbins, then the downpipe: are these available now or will it need to be fabricated? Then about £2-300 for the mapping. Anything else?

[dukest 0]

hello mate, i picked up quite a few of the smaller bits to do the conversion recently but not likely to go through with it now so let me know if you are interested in any of them.

 

cheers

john

[fla 9]

what have you got?

[fla 9]

OK, just suppose the auto 4-motion box physically fitted, what would be needed to make it suitable for 2WD, or is this not internal to the box? Also, what abouot getting the tcm to talk to the vr ecu? I've pm'd bigpants to see if he's got any boxes, so lets see ...

SamG40 i'll let you know what develops.

[fla 9]

does the tt autobox bolt up to the VR block (and hence the 24V)? Anyone know its model number?

[fla 9]

Does anyone know an auto electrician who could advise on the linking of the tt gearbox ecu to the standard corrado one? Perhaps PSI tuning who do the 24V conversion? Thanks

[fla 9]

Now i'm stuck. Just spoke with a gearbox specialist regarding another auto with the ABV ecu. He reckons that it is too complex and perhaps not worth a conversion. It cant be that ONLY the 096 box will work with the engine surely?

 

It seems the only option is the manual route, which will mean selling this and getting a manual. Dilemma, especially as I have the the leather & bodywork colour combo i like, it has aircon, everything works, its only done 60k (i need to change my sig too)....