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Hiya, me again. im just about to place an order with VW for all the bolts etc..... just a little confused at the above! :)

 

so, the 4 sub frame bolts, and wishbones are :

 

2X N102 575 01

2X N102 096 05

2X N102 078 04

2X N904 840 04

 

Think I have all the other bolts, nuts, clips etc... covered off here:

 

X2 ARB Mount Clip 191411334 pipe clip inner

X2 ARB Drop Link Bolts N 0195043

x2 N 0195382 hexagon head bolt c/w shoulder M8X18 / ARB Bolts

X1 191422884A rubber mounting Steering rack

X1 1H0422875A Steering rack clamp

X2 N 90184501 hexagon head bolt c/w shoulder M8X75X33B Steering Rack Bolts

x4 N 90226403 shouldered hex. nut, self-locking M8 / for steering rack bolts

 

Hoping this includes everything I need, exlcuding the ARB drop links and rear rubbers which I already have :)

 

Cheers,

 

Pete

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Not really possible, you need to lower it quite a bit anyway,. i've read someone did it once but was a major faff about.

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guys, still need confirmation on what bolts I need :) would like to get the order in with VW today :)

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Here's a list of parts i've been building up for my front suspension rebuild, should cover everything you may need:

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Thats useful to know, but some of your sub-frame bolt part numbers are different from what has previously been mentioned in the threar....

 

the rear bush bolt you mention "R32" is the bolt the same as the standard corrado one? I have R32 bushes fitted in my new wishbones to go on!

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I've just double checked on ETKA and the part numbers that differ slightly are just where VW have superceeded them, they're the same bolt. The rear bush bolt is the same for any type of bush, it's just the way I've described it.

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Ahhh ok then!

 

So out of your list, what do I need for sub frame and wishbones only?

 

Think I've got the rest covered for Arbs and rack suspension etc...

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Right, i've cross referenced your list with my list and ETKA:

 

"x4 N 90226403 shouldered hex. nut, self-locking M8 / for steering rack bolts" - these super-seed to N 90226404 and are also used for the ARB link bolts, so you will need x6 TOTAL of these.

 

"X2 N 90184501 hexagon head bolt c/w shoulder M8X75X33B Steering Rack Bolts" - you will need x4 of these, not 2.

 

You don't have listed the 4 bolts which hold the engine/gearbox mounts into the subframe 4x N 01953310

 

If you're undoing the top of the engine/gearbox mounts they are N 10241605 x1, N 91127001 x1 (mine were corroded when i changed the mounts)

 

And do you need the bolts and retaining plates for the lower ball joints, as you'll have to swap these over?

 

If you're not touching the hubs/shocks then that should be it.

 

---------- Post added at 1:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 1:23 AM ----------

 

Just noticed I think you may have the wrong part numbers for the steering rack rubber and clamp. The UK VR6 had a TRW rack I believe, which uses:

 

191422884 Rubber

191419875 Clamp

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Ahhh great. So all looks good apart from the bits you've pointed out? Ill upload my final list on Monday. Had to make a tracking log so I know where I am and what they are all for lol.

 

Do the part numbers look ok for the sub frame bolts them self? Not 100% sure as couldn't really see them on your list and your quantities were different! Might just be me having a thick moment lol.

 

Cheers for pointing out the rack clamp and rubber, can anyone else confirm the rack type? I wasn't sure myself there were many different types!

 

I really should get my hands on ETKA...

 

Cheers all

 

Pete

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Sign up on VAGCAT, and go to the catalogue. You can see everything you'll need in picture and part number form then as well.

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Think i'm now there! lol - what a headache VAG-CAT is, some of the drawings are really poor!

 

jsc only thing I have a query about is your ARB Clamp Bolt part number: N 019538 9

 

VAG-CAT has it listed as N 019538 2 and doesnt return any results for your part number?

 

Here is my total list of parts I think i need to do my job, including some other general bits other than my sub-frame work...

 

[TABLE=width: 425]

[TR]

[TD]Part #[/TD]

[TD]QTY[/TD]

[TD]Description[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191411334[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Mount Clips[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 019504 3[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Drop Link Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 0195382[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Mount Clip Bolts M8X18 [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191422884[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Rubber Mount[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191419875[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Clamp[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 901 845 01[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]M8X75X33B Steering Rack Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 90226404[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Bolts / ARB Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]1H0253147B [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Exhaust Rubbers[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]535823599[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Slam Panel Plastic Guides[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 90576301[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]A4X9X8X1 pop-rivet[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]02J141719B [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Clutch Release Arm[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]357711280[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Selector Cable "C" clip[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]019 533 10[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]engine/gearbox mounts into the subframe [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 102 416 05[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Gearbox / Engine Mounts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 911 270 01[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Gearbox / Engine Mounts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 575 01 [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Sub Frame Bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 096 05 [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Sub Frame Bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 078 04[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front wishbone rear bush bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N904 840 04[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Wishbone front bush bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

 

If you can spot anything a miss please let me know, hope to get my order in tomorrow....

 

Cheers

 

Pete

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Enjoy the bill at vw

 

Won't be cheap!!

 

If you could get the sizes of all the bolts you require I'm sure I could source them all cheaper

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Yeah, wont be cheap, but I honestly dont have the time or motivation to get all the individual bolt sizes :)

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The ARB Clamp Bolt part number changes from N 0195382 to N 0195389, doesn't matter which number you use to order, the dealer will supply the 9 number.

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ok great i'll order that one, many thanks for your assistance, does all look ok in my list then buddy?

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ok great i'll order that one, many thanks for your assistance, does all look ok in my list then buddy?

 

Well ordering my parts first thing tomorrow, so if anything wrong ill soon find out haha :)

 

Sweep stake on the price!?

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All looks fine to me apart from you forgot the "N" on N 019 533 10 (x4 engine/gearbox mounts into the subframe). There's nothing else i can think of.

 

Prices shouldn't be too bad, don't think any of the bolts are silly money, but it does add up.

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All parts arrived at VW. £102.74

 

Glad you got all the bolts sorted

 

Gotta take some pics to show us..I know they are only bolts but I am sure we like to see shinny new bits or is it just me...:)

 

Would be great if you could give us a definative list for future refernce.

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Ordered a few other bits other than the sub frame bits, slam panel plastic bonnet guides, clutch release arm, exhaust rubbers etc... however here is my current list of parts:[TABLE=width: 487]

[TR]

[TD]Part #[/TD]

[TD]QTY[/TD]

[TD]Description[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191411334[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Mount Clips[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 019504 3[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Drop Link Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 0195389[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]ARB Mount Clip Bolts M8X18 [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191422884[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Rubber Mount[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]191419875[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Clamp[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 901 845 01[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]M8X75X33B Steering Rack Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 90226404[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]Steering Rack Bolts / ARB Bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]1H0253147B [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Exhaust Rubbers[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]535823599[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Slam Panel Plastic Guides[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 90576301[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]A4X9X8X1 pop-rivet[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]02J141719B [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Clutch Release Arm[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]357711280[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Selector Cable "C" clip[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]019 533 10[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]engine/gearbox mounts into the subframe [/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 102 416 05[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Gearbox / Engine Mount bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N 911 270 01[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Gearbox / Engine Mounts bolts[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 575 01 [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Sub Frame Bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 096 05 [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Sub Frame Bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N102 078 04[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front wishbone rear bush bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]N904 840 04[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Front Wishbone front bush bolt[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

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