swfblade 0 Posted July 10, 2004 at the end of the day it all depends on the driver................200bhp G60 v 200bhp VR(same box ratios etc).........it'll be down to which driver is the more "committed" and whoever gets the start thats from the one above my first post by the way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted July 10, 2004 Yes, but Roddy is saying that given the same car setups, ratios, power etc, it's down to the *Driver*. He's not saying that the G60, with the same credentials, is slower..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swfblade 0 Posted July 10, 2004 ok, but surely the g60 would be quicker as it is lighter? im only starting to understand bhp/torque - wieght ratios, so please forgive my ignorance...;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 10, 2004 How do you define "quicker" - there are so many variables - driver, road conditions, in-gear acceleration, standing start, condition of tyres, mechanicals, brakes etc. My old 205GTi on paper was slower than my Racing Puma but over my favourite stretch of cross country road it was the Peugeot that put the bigger smile on my face. I have driven a couple of Corrado VR6's and own a G60 - both are great cars that (providing you find a good one) are guranteed to put a smile on your face - what you decide to buy is purely down to personal preference, I chose a G60 over a VR6 for personal reasons but would never knock anyone who chooses to buy a VR6 - after all, we all love Corrado's don't we???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 10, 2004 How do you define "quicker" - there are so many variables - driver, road conditions, in-gear acceleration, standing start, condition of tyres, mechanicals, brakes etc. Precisely. Had an interesting duel today. My mate was 3 up in his Leon Cupra R and I was 3 up in my C VR6 and over 120 odd miles (a mixture of urban, rural and motorways) they were pretty well matched in accelerative power, both with me in front and him following me. As we know eachother so well, we could predict when we were going to boot it so neither of us were left floundering in the wrong gear. Now that is a definitive test! My shricked and Throttled VR was easily as punchy as the Leon in the midrange and it was noticably faster than the Leon at higher revs. He commented that he had to get a lot of boost on to keep up and likwise it took some work keeping with him. At the end of the day, only the Forced induction VR6s and highly modded 1.8T Corrado boys will comprehensively waste a G60 and standard VR. Tweaked G60s and VRs will be fairly evenly matched. Certainly not a big enough difference to get excited about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted July 10, 2004 kev why doesnt ur schrick say schrick on it ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 10, 2004 We had the choice of plain or 'Schrick' logo'd manifolds when ordering them. I went for a plain one thinking it would just be a smooth casting, but all they did was left the raised metal portion present and just didn't mill 'Schrick' out of it! Gits! So I stuck a Golf VR6 grille badge on it instead :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted July 10, 2004 looks cool man :wink: i thought it mighta been one of those fake turkish imports like those designer sunglasses LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 10, 2004 LOL, a fake Schrick! Made from recycled coke cans! I bought a fake Tag watch from Turkey (about £3!) and it lasted 4 years until I got it wet, then it stopped, LOL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 10, 2004 I didnt know people still bought fake watches anymore :shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted July 10, 2004 I would.. I want an Omega Speedmaster but can't afford the crazy price tags for them - i'd be happy with a fake :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 10, 2004 Ive got a Seamaster if thats any good to you. 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted July 10, 2004 Real or copy? I like the Seamasters too (Bond... James Bond) but just really like the design of the Speedmasters - especially the standard looking ones used on the Apollo missions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 10, 2004 Its a real one mate, wife bought it me for my birthday last year, so i bought her an Omega constellation, bit more money than mine tho (more than double :cry: ), and keeps the time alot better than mine does, but i like the sweeping second hand so I have to put up with bad time keeping, :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W3RKD 0 Posted July 10, 2004 hummm i would love a speedmaster too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted July 10, 2004 Looks like eBay now allows replica watches.. they used to delete them rather promptly. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 69591&rd=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 10, 2004 Looks like a decent rep, but why would anyone pay £100 quid for a fake, it has the omega seahorse on the bottom but I thought that was only on the Seamaster not the Speedmaster.........details....details :lol: might be wrong though :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted July 10, 2004 :D OFF TOPIC me tinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 10, 2004 I started the topic though, so im sure i can change it aswell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted July 10, 2004 lol didnt realise that....dman i wanted to act like a mod for a sec :oops: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted July 10, 2004 lol didnt realise that....dman i wanted to act like a mod for a sec :oops: :roll: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 11, 2004 You tell him Henny :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blair 0 Posted July 12, 2004 Well you gotta love 'em both anyway :) After 5.5 years of G60 ownership, it's probably about time I sampled the delights of the VR6 on a more longterm basis...;) Either that or, funnily enough since Kev just mentioned it and it's the other car on my list, a Cupra R...:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadoAds 0 Posted July 12, 2004 Yeah the cupra R is a lovely motor, but still alot of pennies :( and due to the fact im destitute ill have to wait :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 12, 2004 The Cupra R is indeed a lovely motor. My mate went for the optional Recaros too, which have airbags in them and look really nice. The ride is VERY firm but the chassis copes with the 18s perfectly. And the brakes......wow! They handle bloody well aswell, easily as good as the Corrado does. It was good to have a 120 mile race with one :lol: I'm pleased my 10 year old jallopy can keep with a 12 month old Cupra R. As for watches. I have an Omega Seamaster Pro, a real one, which is very nice. Don't think I'll buy a swanky watch again as I hardly look at it ! I went for the normal quartz one as I can't be arsed to keep resetting Chronos as I don't wear a watch at the weekend. Damn sexy watches tho 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites