Porsche 944 S1

[pablo_vr6 0]

anyone much experience with these?

 

Im toying with getting one but Id like it go a bit quicker. are they tunable?

 

now for the silly Q - can you transplant a 1.8T audi/vw lump in at all? ;)

 

cheers

-pablo

[biggerbigneil 0]

not 100% sure but isn't it an S2, 3.0 4 cylinder same as is in the 968 (a beautiful car in black club sport) The 944 Turbo is the most tunable but saying that there is an RS version of the 968, only 4 produced I think but should be the same to do with the 944.

"The car featured a K27 turbo boosting the 3.0 litre, 4 cylinder engine and an 8V head, similar to the 944 Turbo S, rather than using the 16V 968 head."

http://www.968turbo.homestead.com/

I WANT ONE!

[biggerbigben 0]

nice.... giving me ideas neil...

[samm_cvr6 0]

The S2 is more powerful (210bhp I think) but obviously is holding it's value better. Maybe if you had a 944 Turbo the engine transplant would not be so necessary?

[pablo_vr6 0]

simple question if economcs. if i got a 944 turbo id:

 

a) spend all my budget

b) be terrifed to touch it in case it broke

 

if I could slip a vag turbo lump in Id save money AND have confidence to hike the boost up :)

 

was reading the 944 had an audi gearbox so its a step closer :D

[Storm 0]

I was going down this road before I bottled it and went for Rado's instead. So here goes:

 

1. Put a VAG engine and you would never sell it again unless you found a chav with money.

2. Gearbox is in the rear, its a transaxle.

3. 2.5 is an 8V or 16V lump uptil 1989, then their is a 2.7 8v unit until the 3.0 16V - S2 and from 1990 model year onwards. S2 its a gutsy unit and the one with very good performance.

4. If you do all the work yourself they are cheap to run, once in the land of the specialist for anything major and its bucks.

 

The turbo is very tunable, there are two main tuners in the states that can get rid of the lag and make them really really fly 300-350BHP - reliable.

[pablo_vr6 0]

cheers for that mate. The s1 is a little slouchy at 165bhp alright. is there anything that can be done on them?

[Storm 0]

Not really to my knowledge outside of flowing and blueprinting etc, but the gains are marginal. 16v2.5 gives 190BHP but is delivered in the same way as a MkII golf GTI 16v all top end.

 

The S2 is the best one. The engine is capable of very high mileages, the only issue is the timing chain and tensioner.

[pablo_vr6 0]

not many S2s come up over here tho. ah well will see how it goes. 190bhp n/a isnt bad as we all know :)

[Storm 0]

190BHP 2.5 is the way to go for VFM, it gets an unnecessary bad rap for that tensioner and is cheap. Get on ferry and take one home man!

[pablo_vr6 0]

lol :)

[vr6storm 0]

cheers for that mate. The s1 is a little slouchy at 165bhp alright. is there anything that can be done on them?

 

 

there aint such a model as a S1 in the 944 range as such........the model line up is

 

944 lux........2.5l 163bhp 8v 82-88

944 lux........2.5l 165bhp 8v 88-89

944 S..........2.5l 190bhp 16v 86-89

944 S2........3.0l 211bhp 16v 89-92

944 turbo....2.5l 220bhp 85-88 and 250bhp 88>

[pablo_vr6 0]

im using the term S1 to mean not the S2 :oops:

[vr6storm 0]

190BHP 2.5 is the way to go for VFM, it gets an unnecessary bad rap for that tensioner and is cheap. Get on ferry and take one home man!

 

 

tbh the 944 S isnt all that much faster than the standard 944lux in real world terms......ive driven both and tbh........i would save the expense and just go for a 8v 944 especially the 1 year only 2.7........also the 16v engine in the 944 S is pretty expensive to repair from what i hear

[paul 0]

Here's my tuppence worth....

 

If you're thinking of spending money on a transplant I'd just go for a 1988 onwards 250hp turbo. A mate of mine has run one for about 18 months now and it's been bullet proof and it's plenty fast in standard form. Porsche always seem to make every single BHP accessible. Ok, MPG isn't great (avg 22) but he does less than 3K a year so isn't an issue. Servicing is also fairly cheap these days using specialists, he gets and oil change and check up done at a Porsche garage every 6 months and does the rest himself (he's a mechanic after all). The car has done 130K and is still on it's original turbo and I can testify that it is still sweet as a nut. I wouldn't mind one myself.