G 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Hi im gonna get my car serviced next week and was wondering if the timing belt is the same thing as the cam belt? GSF didn't seem to have a cam belt for the 1.8 16v but did have a timing belt. I think its the same thing but just wanted to check. Also how much would you expect to pay for a full service including cam belt at a garage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 29, 2006 Yep, same thing... Service cost is hard to say but maybe £350 including cambelt for a basic service with them letting you know what needs attention... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcrado 0 Posted January 29, 2006 £350???? for a basic service? i'd tell them to poke it for that price! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 29, 2006 That includes cam belt, the parts for that are £75 alone plus another £100 on servicing items... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Whats needed for a cam belt change? Coz i've ordered some parts from GSF. I bought the timing belt, belt tension stud and timing chain. That all came to about £20. Anything else needed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.ots 10 Posted January 29, 2006 You don't need a timing chain for a 16V. Timing chains are only used on a VR6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Thats weird. It says that part 13160 is for the 16v and 13161 is for the VR6. Oh well. If i wont need it i'll put it up for sale on here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walesy 0 Posted January 29, 2006 I think the 16v does use a chain to keep the cams in time, it's worth changeing it. The VR6 uses a cam chain instead of a cam belt I think the £70 supercharged quoted was for VAG prices, so buyig from GSF you'l save alot on parts, although they might not last as long as genuine parts. A service could cost £350 , if you paid top whack for all parts (( leads, plugs etc )) and paid £30-£35 an hour labour for a couple of hours I spose, but it seems bloody expensive to me. It should be cheaper than that really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.ots 10 Posted January 29, 2006 Just had a look on etka and there does seem to be a chain that links the cams on a 16V. As Walesey says probably worth chaning it when you get the belt done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 29, 2006 Yip, the belt drives the inlet cam then that in turn drives the exhaust cam via the chain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Is that a head off job or can it be done with the cambelt cover off? Thanks for all the info guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 29, 2006 It's on the other side of the head... manifold off I think... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Is that a head off job or can it be done with the cambelt cover off? Thanks for all the info guys. I really wouldn't bother doing the cam chain, unless the car is mega mileage or there's noise coming directly from the chain, it's a real pain to take all the inlet off and then remove the cam cover, you'll need new gaskets for the inlet manifold and cam cover. Do it if you need to replace the cam cover gasket because of leaks etc.. but I really wouldn't do it just becasue it's time for a cam belt change. It runs in oil all the time and I've never heard of them failing, I doubt whether most are changed the life of the car. I did mine on a full engine rebuild at 120,000 miles, only because I was in there anyway and the chain is just a few quid, but the old one was fine really. David. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Thanks for the info guys. I've just had a word with a mechanic and he said exactly the same thing. Isn't really worth doing it. I've booked my car in for a service at a local garage for this friday. It sounds like i'll be paying around £200 ish for a full service + cambelt change. If it all goes well i'll post up the garage's details as a reccomendation. I've heard really good things about the place and it's a family run business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walesy 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Cool. £200 sounds like a good all in price. I'm sure your car will be loving it!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt buz 0 Posted January 31, 2006 hey had this done last week £245 all in at a VW specialist 60 quid for the kit 10 for alternator and PAS belts 4 quid on some new bolts that had rusted the rest was labour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G 0 Posted February 3, 2006 Well i've just had it serviced and that included: Full service (Oil, all the filters, belts etc etc) Cam belt and tensioner change Welded a crack in my exhaust rear brake pads and fixed my rear numberplate light wire. Cost me £280. Does that sound like a good price or about right? If you lot think its a good deal then i'll put it up on the garage section of the forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chubbybrown 0 Posted February 3, 2006 My mitsubushi dealer wanted £330 just for a 36k service. straight forward service plugs etc.. no belts,crack in exhaust,Pre MOT £165 but we are in Inverness.theres quite a lot of parts in that list of yours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
