VR6 into 16v

[quicky1980 0]

I have started a project of fitting a 2.9 vr engine into my 1992 16v corrado. This rado i have is a little strange as its early wiring but late body as they must have raided the spare parts bin.

 

So far I have:

ABV 2.9L Engine

Inlet Manifold (Polished with black inners)

Gearbox

Alternator

Aircon Compressor

Powersteering Pump

New Serpine Belt

Engine Loom

ECU

Coilpack

Brand New Bosch Sparkplugs

HT leads

All Water Hoses

Expansion tank

Very large Rad (slightly damadged but not leaking)

Airflow Meter and Inlet pipe (no airfliter)

Exhaust manifolds and downpipe

Almost new Clutch fitted

Drive Shafts

Hubs

Brakes

 

So my questions are:

1).What else do I need to get? ie cross member, wire loom etc. want to make as standard as possible.

2).Can you tell me if the parts i need to get can be taken off other cars, or rado's only.

3).Is the loom from the vr a straight plug in to the 16v fuse panel? or will i need to rewire stuff? bit worried about this.

4).Which is the best/easiest way to do the conversion

5) unusual tools needed for conv? i have a good selection but anything i may not have?

6). any other hints tips, info or links would be very usefull.

 

Ive searched on here but nothing is tellling me exactly what else I need, thanks

Sam

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

You sure ask allot of questions for somebody that knows it all....lol !

[quicky1980 0]

lol, everything i know about this conversion is from what ive read on here. just need reasuring i have researched correctly, always good to check im going to do it right first time

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

You will need the VR crossmember back and front.

You will need to use the VR radiator and if using the VR fans you will need to use the small separate loom and control box that bolts near the expansion bottle.

you can just bolt up your existing shafts to the VR gearbox or go down the 5 stud hub route.

Do you have the fuse board with the wiring diagram?

 

It all will go in without any special tools,you have the later valver so should have the humped bonnet anyway.

Your standard fuel pump will be up to the job quite well.

Not sure if you power steering pipes will match up as the VR has a banjo type into the pump But the rest should match up fine.

 

I have wiring diagram for the golf which is the same as the corrado if you need it just PM me.

 

Fitting is straight forward,remove old engine rear subframe and wiring,fit the wiring while the engine is out of the way,refit VR crossmember,install engine with VR front crossmember,plumb up and turn the Key...you hope lol!

[quicky1980 0]

i dont have the fuse board diagram, but did come across a link to the canadian forum showing wriring diagrams

http://www.corrado-club.ca/

the fuse board in my car is most likely early type, so i think this may cause problems

thanks for your advice, greatly apreciated.

[Lippy 0]

good luck!

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

Just been looking at the part numbers for the fuse boards to see if there is any difference in part numbers and there is none from early to late type,so best thing to do is just plug and play ,you cant go wrong.

[quicky1980 0]

checked ETKA, as far as i can see one crossmember is same on both engine types, only difference with the two set ups are the subframes and the other crossmember.

 

i was told that the cross member must be corrado is that true? also i guesse my driveshafts can cope for a little while till i change to vr ones?

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

The rear crossmember must be VR only ,same as the front as it has a different mount.

You can use a MK3 rear crossmember.

The shafts are the same as the VR so they will cope just fine

[quicky1980 0]

sorry, didnt make clear. I was told it must be a corrado vr6 part, not a golf vr6 part.

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

You need a Corrado front crossmember only,MK3 rear crossmember,Raddo or passat.

[quicky1980 0]

cool, think thats it for now

many thanks CorradoVR6-n.o.s, now i do know everything :D

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

no worries mate,if you get stuck with the wiring give me a shout :wink:

[eatthis 0]

i think u might need a vr bonnet

[quicky1980 0]

eatthis, mine is the bulge type like which is the same as a vr. later 16v were lucky enough to get these

[quicky1980 0]

khurrado, was saying he thinks that the late 2.0 16v rear subframe is the same as the VR one. Only difference is that the wish bones are wider on a vr. could anyone verify this? im still digging

[khurrado 0]

What are you doing with your old engine?

[quicky1980 0]

sell it, but i doubt ill do this conversion that soon, looking at doing it in easter. think i have someone already interested in it too.

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

The rear mount is not the same as the Valver mate,its VR only

[quicky1980 0]

ill use the vr mount, but i'm hearing rumours that the subframe is the same, but still trying to check this

[CorradoVR6-Turbo 0]

The VR mount will only bolt to the VR subframe,ive had later ABF valvers aswell as KR/9A The VR mount and subframe is unique to the VR

[quicky1980 0]

ok, thanks for telling me the bad news

[quicky1980 0]

just an update, done the conversion, took alot longer than hoped but shes runing and used daily :) love it

[tut_gareth 0]

hi,

 

good thread,

 

i have a engine less 1990 Kr 16v and have just got my hands on a cheap mk3 golf VR6.

 

Am i right in thinking that i could unbolt the whole subfame, engine and running gear from the golf and it would fit into the corrado...... ?

or would that be too easy...........?

[boost monkey 0]

Just PM r4ge or look at his members gallery.

 

He has done the whole conversion.