Fiat coupe 20v turbo?

[munkay 0]

I almost bought one of these but in the end went for the Corrado. Strainght line speed is stonking, 1/4 mile in 14 dead I believe! What put me off the Fiat was the build quality is poor and the handling, refinement and noise of the VR6 is far better. I also nearly bought a late Nissan 200 Touring which also has a very tuneable turbo lump and RWD! The MR2 Turbo is very tempting but there seems to be a hell of a lot on the roads (although they are mainly UK ones) and the boy racers seem to be tanishing it's image. Depends what you prefer?

If it's straight line speed get a Fiat

If the feel, build quality and handling are you'r thing, then don't. :wink:

 

You can't get a UK MR2 Turbo - and straight line/corners/up a hill they are quicker than the coupe.

 

I must admit to not being a massive fan of the image at first- but it has definitely grown on me and you don't have to do the whole rice thing - you can keep it simple and have them look really smart. I bought one purely for the engine and handling - by far and away the most fun car I have driven. And for cheap upgrade - £20 FCD and a £20 MBC and you are good to make a very fast car serisouly fast.

 

You would be hard pushed to find a FWD car that would keep up with one.

 

I find it really funny how so many people who are leaving the Corrado or have gone to one have considered or owned similar cars. Then again opinions on more expensive cars are shared. :)

[maff 10]

Cheers for the replys guys, i dont really wanna shell out too much for my next car and the fiat coupe is just too tempting for what you get for the money, leather, speed etc, but i still think id miss the corrado though, on the right road at the right time its the one of the best car ive driven yet, indecisions eh?

[Jon20VT 0]

Hi, nice forum. A mates got a VR6, nice engine note and good handling 8) However I couldn't live without the turbo on full boost :twisted:

I'm only a few miles from Birmingham so If you want to come and get a taste of the Coop you're quite welcome.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

I've always wanted to sample a Fiat Coupe. The specs are awesome, 5 cylinder turbo (which sounds way better than the VR6 imo), Brembos, leather etc etc. It's similar to VW's Corrado in the sense that Fiat had a flash of inspiration and produced a decent machine, killed it off and went all boring on us again. Puntos, Marea's, Bravos etc.....hmmmm.... dull as dish water.....give us another Coupe with Italian flare! And likewise, Golfs, Passats, Tourans, Polos.....yawn. We want over powered Coupes please.

 

So what is the ubiquitous Fiat like interior wise? Is it as rattley and flakey as the Corrados? What about the wiring? If Alfas are anything to go by, I'm not expecting miracles in that department. Do they use Magnetti-Marelli stuff? Oh dear if they do. Still, there's plenty of 20VTs kicking about still, so they must be fairly reliable?

 

As for this infamous engine-out for a cambelt change thing, I don't think that is worthy of negativity. It's no different to having to do the chains on a VR.

 

Would love a drive in one. Maybe we should invite a few Fiat Coupe folks along to a Corrado meet, just so I can scratch my itch? :D

[M777CUSGTI 0]

So what is the ubiquitous Fiat like interior wise? Is it as rattley and flakey as the Corrados? What about the wiring? As for this infamous engine-out for a cambelt change thing, I don't think that is worthy of negativity. It's no different to having to do the chains on a VR.

 

 

the interior in mine was good, not rattley at all. you must go for 1 with leather tho IMO. known to have niggley elec faults on the whole but i never sufferd with this. £400 pounds for the cambelt is a fair price in my opnion, as some fiat specialist do not need to take out the ebgine nowadays.

 

they are a serious piece of kit that deserve more recognition that they get. this may cause some controversey here but i think the LE/+ is the best coupe you can buy for under like 7k.

the 20VT engine sounds awesome when opened up.....

man i wish i still had mine :cry:

 

corrado ownership is calling my name however :lol:

[vr6storm 0]

IMO and IIRC the cambelt change on the Fiat (regardless if its an engine out job), its still an expensive "requirement" to have done.......every 72/74k IIRC.....ok a lot of people with VR6's have had the timing chain changed at similar kind of cost but........VW don't state that the Timing chain HAS an interval to be changed at,and a few people i trust with my engine are of the view that the actual chains should last the lifetime of the car........ok the guides and tensioner will obviously need inspected and changed if required(but then i suppose if your that far into the engine and/or you're fitting a new clutch then i suppose its worth doing).............i suppose at the end of the day it depends what Coupe you want/like etc the VW will always have the reliability legend on its side(even though we all know they ain't exactly trouble-free) whereas the Fiat Coupe will always suffer from the general Italian car misconceptions(dodgy electrics....premature rust etc.....even though ive yet to see a rusty unloved Fiat Coupe up here).........

[munkay 0]

Puely from a looks perspective - the interior of the coupe is very nice. Could have gone wrong very easily with the paint colour sweeping over the dash but it looks spot on. Good that the majority of them have leather as standard to.

 

The seats are a lot softer the corrados tho on the standard leathers. Am I right in thinkng the LE's have recaro leather or some sort of upgraded seats?

[M777CUSGTI 0]

:roll:

 

yes afaik :wink:

[munkay 0]

what's the :roll: for?

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Some good appraisals of the Fiat coming out here. Honest and non-biased. Good to see :lol:

 

I've always liked them, especially in Black metallic or that dark green they did them in but in all honesty I think I would be jumping out of the pan and into the fire if I bought one, even as a second car. There will obviously be areas of the Corrado which Eclipse the Fiat, and vice-versa. Double trouble!

 

How well do the 20V Turbos respond to chassis upgrades? Having adorned my C with top quality suspension and an entire chassis rebuild, it is the best handling FWD car I have ever driven, period. Come rain or shine, this car is like barnacles to a hull. Could the Fiat be made to handle as well?

 

I dunno....I'm getting a classic case of the grass is greener syndrome here, but is it, given my schrick'd, chipped and cam'd VR can keep with a standard 20V T in a straight line?

 

What about things like MAFs and throttle position sensors etc? Get much grief from those on the Fiat?

 

Hmmm..... I must keep away from Autotrader :x

[M777CUSGTI 0]

what's the :roll: for?

 

rolling my eyes up to your thread, nothing bad intended munkay! :lol:

[M777CUSGTI 0]

I dunno....I'm getting a classic case of the grass is greener syndrome here, but is it, given my schrick'd, chipped and cam'd VR can keep with a standard 20V T in a straight line?

 

 

Hmmm..... I must keep away from Autotrader :x

 

probably, but if you spent the same kind of money on the coupe that you have on your VR6 then the diffrence in performance would be phenomenal 8)

[munkay 0]

no problem M777 :)

 

I was not meaning to be anal about them - I can't help it - its a prerequisite to be a member of the/any car fourm :)

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Yeah that's true..... force induction! Onto a winner straight away!

 

I have no doubt a modded Coupe would waste my VR. I've had it nearly 2 years now and there is nothing left to do to it, modding wise, so I'm hankering after a new project :lol:

[munkay 0]

I got the impression you may be of that thinking . Having seen you comment in a few of the alternative car threads of the last couple of months ;)

 

What you been thinking then??

[M777CUSGTI 0]

Yeah that's true..... force induction! Onto a winner straight away!

 

I have no doubt a modded Coupe would waste my VR. I've had it nearly 2 years now and there is nothing left to do to it, modding wise, so I'm hankering after a new project :lol:

 

well, you simply cannot go wrong with a fiat coupe T.

great cars 8)

[munkay 0]

Don't listen to him - Modded MR2 Turbo all the way :D

 

;) :lol:

[Furkz 0]

kevhaywire, what abt a 225bhp TT lump :wink: :wink: with ur chassis it would mix well and stick the VR6 in a MK2 with a turbo that should keep u occupied until new year

[munkay 0]

That sounds like a good idea - I would have loved to have a good Turbo'd corrado - in blackberry with black leather and nice wide Borbets :)

[samm_cvr6 0]

Sorry, I meant UK naturally aspirated MR2'S. But a mark 1 MR2 Turbo will not keep up with the fiat 20v Turbo, although a rev3 MR2 Turbo would beat it, the MR2 Turbo doesn't accelerate nearly as smoothley as the Corrado VR6 or Fiat tho.IMO of FWD cars, the integra type R is still number one, the steering and the handling are razor sharp, almost too much!

I think the bad stigma about Fiat's being unreliable is untrue, my girlfriend has a Fiat Uno, in 3 years of driving the car every day, it has never broken down, had no electrical faults and started every time without fail. :wink:

[Kevin Bacon 5]

kevhaywire, what abt a 225bhp TT lump :wink: :wink: with ur chassis it would mix well and stick the VR6 in a MK2 with a turbo that should keep u occupied until new year

 

Not a bad idea, espeically as I'm not big on engine noises. I just like thrust, and lots of it :D

 

I would prefer a 24V conversion and further down the line a turbo or supercharger.

[vr6corrado 0]

Hmm I have recently been considering alternatives to my VR and have read all the above but I'm somewhat surprised the 200sx doesn't get more than a mere mention. The reliability seems very alluring. Does anyone have much experience of them?

[pablo_vr6 0]

doesnt the 200sx have bottom end issues?

[samm_cvr6 0]

Not that I'm aware of, it is a detuned version of the Pulsar GTI-R so is pretty much bomb proof as long as you change the oil etc and I'm sure the Pulsar one a rally in the early 90's with this engine?? For any of you who have driven a Pulsar, you will know how good the engine is. I'm sure it actually has slightly more torque, even dettuned than a Corrado VR6! It's a veryunderstated car but is massive in the 'drift' community who are mad about it. Apparently 260bhp is very easily had without loss of driveability/reliability(it's got a LSD!) in which case it should hit 60 in around 5.5!.

The interior is easily as nice as a Supra, a step up considering most japs although highly specced, don't have briliant interiors. If anything happens to my Corrado, I will defo get one of these, until I can afford an M3 Evo that is! :wink:

[pablo_vr6 0]

dont pulsars have a hunger for gearboxes? know a few lads with one and they are forever rebuilding the boxes