Dredgey 0 Posted June 27, 2006 I've been running the same system for about 12 years now and my Amp has finally started to die. Trouble is, I'm now completely out of touch with regards to the ICE scene! I have a Pioneer Minidisc headunit and multi-changer, a set of JL 5.25" 2 way components up front, and a series one dual voice coil 2 Ohm JL 12W6 sub. This was being powered by a Denon DCA-800 amp. The amp was never really enough for the sub, but did pretty well to power it all for so long. It's finally dying though so now its time to replace it! I'm not sure what to buy next though. My budget isn't huge (£2-300), and ideally I'm looking for another multi-channel amp as I love their versitality. However I'm not totallay objectionable to a multi-amp set up. What amp would anyone suggest though, bearing in mind I really want to get the best out of my sub? I know that JL and PG amps are a firm favourite but what about any other makes? I'm considering the PG R8.0:4 Octane amp?... does anybody have an experience in running a W6 sub from one of these amps? (Shame it seems that PG seems to be suffering as a company - http://portland.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2006/06/05/story6.html) Anyway, suggestions please!! Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIMMYVR 0 Posted June 27, 2006 Hello dredgey, just fitted a system with two Jl subs, and a set of jl Vr components. I used the Exile amplifiers, these are produced by the same people who design Pheonix Gold amplifiers. At the moment they can be sourced quite cheaply brilliant power delivery, excellent build quality and crystal clear sound for the money. Speak to Billy at Bornemouth Car Hifi, and say timmy from Weymouth put you in touch. Im sure he will do you a deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted June 27, 2006 Genesis Profile 4 is £300, has 4 channels rated at a minimum of 50W rms each, but that's a Genesis 50W, so it's actually more like 100W rms. http://www.audioscapedirect.co.uk/catal ... cts_id=128 I'm gonna be mostly getting either one of them, or the Profile 4 Ultra which is identical, but double the power and £400. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bristolbaron 10 Posted June 27, 2006 Ive just fitted a genesis profile 5 and the quality is superb. The seperate sub channel is rated at 250 rms, but kicks a hell off a lot more than my old 250 mono. highly recommended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 27, 2006 Can't go wrong with Genesis..... superb amps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dredgey 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Excellent! Thanks for your replies guys. Funnily enough, that's the second recommendation for that amp that I've had - although it was from someone who was trying to sell me one so I wasn't sure if he was recommending it on that basis. I will probably go for the Genesis as it seems to come highly commended, but out of curosity, how does it compare to the PG R8.0:4 Octane amp? Has anybody experience with one of these amps as I think I've found it quite cheap? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phoenix-Gold-R8-0 ... dZViewItem Alternatively maybe one of these? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phoenix-Gold-X100-4-Xenon-100W-4-CH-Car-Amplifier-UK_W0QQitemZ160000587810QQihZ006QQcategoryZ4950QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem Or is the Geneisis still the winner!? Cheers for your assistance!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted June 28, 2006 Mr. Haywire seems to buy his ICE regardless of cost, so if he's going for a Genesis, then I'd guess it's the one to have :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 28, 2006 Unless you go for their top end ones, Phoenix Gold aren't what they used to be but it's your money and choice at the end of the day. We can only suggest what we've tried and liked and Genesis seem to tick all the boxes, which is why I use them :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 My missus doesn't have the same spending power as Wire, looking for a decent 4 channel amp for £100-120, do you reckon 2nd hand is best, or a new cheapie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 28, 2006 Your Missus? LOL....I like that! See if there are any Genesis Profile 4s on the gay..... should be able to bag a s/hand one for that amount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Been looking already, I'll just keep my eyes peeled. Whatcha mean? Your Missus? LOL....I like that! She's not imaginary... honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted June 28, 2006 Whatcha mean? Your Missus? LOL....I like that! She's not imaginary... honest. Yeah, just ask Tom... :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom_vRS 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Genesis Profile amps rock! :D And as it happens I'm selling both of mine - I have a Profile 4 and a Profile Sub. PM me for more info pending a for sale thread... :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 PM'd :) I do have a Profile 4 Ultra in my C, so I know how good they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 28, 2006 I meant "Your missus?" as in, why is she paying for it?! LOL! :-) The way you said it makes it sound like she buys all your bits! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 28, 2006 Oh right, I was interpreting it wrong. :cuckoo: This is for her Polo, I already got my ICE sorted, remember? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 28, 2006 Ah OK....sorry for the confusion.... didn't know it was for her car, doh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dredgey 0 Posted June 29, 2006 Genesis Profile amps rock! :D And as it happens I'm selling both of mine - I have a Profile 4 and a Profile Sub. PM me for more info pending a for sale thread... :D I could well be interested in that profile 4 that you have up for sale if xbones declines, Tom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 29, 2006 I haven't made an offer yet, feel free to PM him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dredgey 0 Posted June 29, 2006 Hello dredgey, just fitted a system with two Jl subs, and a set of jl Vr components. I used the Exile amplifiers, these are produced by the same people who design Pheonix Gold amplifiers. At the moment they can be sourced quite cheaply brilliant power delivery, excellent build quality and crystal clear sound for the money. Speak to Billy at Bornemouth Car Hifi, and say timmy from Weymouth put you in touch. Im sure he will do you a deal. Cheers for the advice/tip off dude, looks like its a choice between an Exile amp http://www.exilecaraudio.com/2006/products/4channel/ or a Genesis amp http://www.genesiscaraudio.net/profile/... Anyone have any suggestions as to which is better, or are they much on the same par?! Cheers all! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dredgey 0 Posted June 29, 2006 Genesis Profile amps rock! :D And as it happens I'm selling both of mine - I have a Profile 4 and a Profile Sub. PM me for more info pending a for sale thread... :D Trying to PM you mate, regarding your amps for sale - can't seem to send post it through to you? Definitely interested in your amps though!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbaker8v 0 Posted June 29, 2006 Cheers for the advice/tip off dude, looks like its a choice between an Exile amp http://www.exilecaraudio.com/2006/products/4channel/ or a Genesis amp http://www.genesiscaraudio.net/profile/... Anyone have any suggestions as to which is better, or are they much on the same par?! Cheers all! :D The genesis will kick the others into next week, both in terms of sound quality and build quality. Having said that, i dont think a profile 4 has the power to do teh JL justice, but will be prefect for your components. Is also worth looking second hand at something like http://www.talkaudio.co.uk There are some "old skool" beauties going for sale all the time, such as my Phoenix Gold MS2250 i just picked up for £250, that can easily put out well over 1000Watts RMS into subs...... Dont think you have to buy brand new. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no_endo 0 Posted July 7, 2006 i have a phoenix gold xenon x200.4 amp for sale on fleabay at the moment thats like new. i payed well over £300 last year for it and have only used for a couple of months. heres the spec: http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/xenonamps.html link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... %3AIT&rd=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites