Johnboy98 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Hey peeps, can you put Bosch Red Top Injectors in a VR6 prior to supercharging? Eventually she will be blown but for the time being im getting the engine to run sweet 1st. Is there a danger of bore wash/overfuelling if I changed them as I suspect the others are a bit goosed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 25, 2006 It's doable, but not recommended. I've done 300 miles on the reds and standard chip. If you pull the MAF the engine goes into uber lean mode and it'll balance out, but will still be stinking rich, it's perfectly drivable mind, once it's warmed up......but takes ages to warm due to all the fuel going in :-) So....no.....not worth it, wait till you're charged. I had no choice but to do the above due to a certain situation that arose. Wouldn't have done it at all if I had the choice!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnboy98 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Cheers for the info Kev, didnt really wanna pay for getting them tested as I said they are gonna be replaced and as far as im aware they are near impossible to test accurately without a proper setup. Did get my mate to Ultrasonically bath them about a year ago (for free of course) but dont really want to pay £25 per nozzle to get em flow and spray checked when you could get a new set of reds for that. Hope your well matey and cheers for the lightning reponse. Jonny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnboy98 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Just had a thought though Vince owes me a free rolling road setup so if I took it easy....ish he could probably map it accordingly?? or is that still a tad too riskay?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 25, 2006 Do it mate..... I had to limp to Vince running on the reds and standard chiparooney and it was fine. Had to change the oil soon after though as it was almost pitch black :-) It will run.....not to your liking, but she'll get you to stealth. Or you could just wang the reds in at Stealth? Only takes about an hour.... Yeah I'm good cheers chap.....patiently waiting for my mapping on August 18th 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnboy98 0 Posted July 25, 2006 It will run.....not to your liking, but she'll get you to stealth. Or you could just wang the reds in at Stealth? Only takes about an hour.... Spose im in a prime position as ill run on LPG to get there negating the fuel injection completely, I'd have to take off the Shrek aswell so would take quite a bit of faf as usual! Has Chris sorted out his supply of cheaper ones do you know? cant remember how much Daz wanted at G werks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 25, 2006 PM Chris mate, he did say how much they are but I can't repeat it on the forum as it's such a good price :-) You should get a schimmel, I'm currently negotiating a GB with them. They let 15% more air in than the standard manifold, added to the charger's extra air, it's quite a mod. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted July 25, 2006 I'm currently negotiating a GB with them I wish i knew that :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KADVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 did not want to hear that kev, i pulled out of the one on vr6oc, due to buying the charger sooner rather than later, when do you think this gb will start?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 25, 2006 Sorry guys, bad timing I know, but I also paid full whack.... I'm doing it for the rest of you that haven't already seen the light ;-) They sell on reptuation so didn't think they'd entertain a GB, but seems they will. I got a referral from Vince to help some guy get one and as the VR6OC "quickflow" GB seems to have stalled, I thought I'd get on the case with the schimmels as they're far superior imo.... I asked Darlene about it today, so it's literally only just lifted off, should get prices tomorrow once she's spoken to Bill. They're also currently uprating their website to better cope with UK orders as I've told them a lot of interest is kicking up over here. I've also told them to throw in the weird American threaded brass fittings too as I just couldn't get any over here. They're for the servo and FPR vac outlets and such like. I'll keep you posted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KADVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 cheers kev, i have only read really good reports about your log :lol: i hope this goes ahead though, so if it does?? put me down for one, god the missus will kill me :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 25, 2006 Will do mate. I can only go on H8RRA's experience as he's the only person I know of that's fitted one in the UK. After it was mapped, he said "what is the remaining 3/4 of throttle travel for?" Which bodes extremely well :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 put me down as a hopefully, depending on how many sets of wheels i buy off you in the meantime ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Do you need to use slim line fans with schimmel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted July 25, 2006 you will need to as the fan motor is to large and you will need to run the intake hose just were the fan is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 you will need to as the fan motor is to large and you will need to run the intake hose just were the fan is. Not end of world, James hows yours coming along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Slowly,got most of the bits i need now,going to pull head off to do seals gaskets,fit ARP studs then the SP manifold as doing them without taking head off is to much of a pain ! Off to scrapy tomorow to get some slim line fans i saw on a audi V6 coupe that looks just right for the job. Fitted Six branch and decat this weekend gone,made temp 60mm pipe to the rear box to hear what it sounds like.....oh yes! :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted July 25, 2006 sound like your going to make good hp on rollers, can't wait. You not using water injection, or just using cooler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Just cooler,there will be no need for it as the air will be dense enough.How are you getting on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted July 26, 2006 Yes, you will need slim fans. I went with the setup Vince uses when installing 1.8Ts into Corrados (they have log mannies aswell, so same problem), which is an 11" and a 9" fan. The 9" one sitting in front of the throttle and as low down as possible. If anyone buys any, remember you need suction fans....not pushers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Just cooler,there will be no need for it as the air will be dense enough.How are you getting on? Im getting all the bits together first, got charger ,WI kit , 248s Leaving vgi on for now,getting vince to fit it all in september. Would luv to go for a log and cooler,but moneys running out. :( Will see how it does with these bits first. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted July 27, 2006 And how fast can you go on Jersey? Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted July 27, 2006 40mph :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
