dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Does anyone know if there is any difference between satin, matt and textured black paints? I know people used to say that textured black paint was better than the stick on vinyl rear window surround on a mKI golf, but is this a real paint? and can i buy a tin off the shelf? Cheers an advance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Does anyone know if there is any difference between satin, matt and textured black paints? I know people used to say that textured black paint was better than the stick on vinyl rear window surround on a mKI golf, but is this a real paint? and can i buy a tin off the shelf? Cheers an advance well in the world of printing..........although its not "paint"....paper comes in different types of textures/grades etc pretty much like paint satin=has a sheen to it.......pretty much like the clothing material its named after......paintwise similar to whats known as "chassis black" which is used on HGV chassis's matt=a dullish solid "flat-looking" material.....paintwise pretty much like the stonechip protection used in early 90's escorts in particular(tho it was an anthracite type colour) textured=paper-wise it can have like a fine flock to it that you can feel.....paintwise it would be the same as what Matt with the G60 Limited had done to his bumpers if its instead of using vinyl on the back window of your golf then it would be a "matt" paint that you would need......tho tbh it depends on what each manufacturer "describes" their own product at the end of the day as for availablity most automotive paint suppliers will be able to supply them, tho you might need to know someone in the trade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Awww, you guys! :thumb right: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted October 12, 2003 if you were to spray it,i would go for satin black,you can make the paint do what you want it to do,i.e make it shinier or duller,by just putting the spray can/gun closer or further away from what your sprayer,it does take a bit ig getting used to but with a bit of practise you will be able to get any texture you like Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Well guys, its actually to paint my new debadged FK grille. Just now its just a smotth ABS plastic finish and looks a bit cheap against the grey paint, im trying to make it look as close to a standard grill in terms of finish as possible, hence wondering about textured paint. Does anyone know if these paints are actually able to flex slightly for initial fitting of the grill, i dont want it to all flake off when im fitting the damn thing! :lol: But going by this description... textured=paper-wise it can have like a fine flock to it that you can feel.....paintwise it would be the same as what Matt with the G60 Limited had done to his bumpers ...this sounds like waht i need. Cheers :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Whats the chances of getting it at Halfords actually? cause i only need a small aerosol for all the grill is, and eos anyone know any good prep and painting tips? is it just like normal paint? ie sand, prime paint? or will i miss on primer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted October 12, 2003 I bought a Rallye front for a mk2 a few years ago, It was second hand and colour coded, to get it back to the original black I used a 500ml can of Satin Black available from Wilco's etc To prep, I just used some fine grade 800 wet and dry to take the shine off the paint but didn't go thru the paint at all, I then cleaned it well and let it get completly dry before spraying evenly with the satin black, It was a nice hot day so I did it all at once but the paint was drying very quickly! - I put on an equivelent of 3 coats If you choose a nice still day or have a good light garage to work in and take your time the finish will look like an original grill - I sold mine after a year (got pissed of wwith the poor lighting) but it showed no signs of flaking or chipping - without the use of a laquer! As yours is unpainted plastic a good shop will be able to advise you about which primer to use, may also want to sand the surface to give the paint a key to stick to Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 oh, sanding of the grill was a definate, im just not sure if i even need to prime it with these kind of paints. and i dont want any sheen as part of the finish. is this the sort of finish you got on yours? bearing in mind mKI mKII Erly corrado grilles were finished like this, but the later 3 slat corrado grill were very textured. you got any pics of that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted October 12, 2003 oh, sanding of the grill was a definate, im just not sure if i even need to prime it with these kind of paints. and i dont want any sheen as part of the finish. is this the sort of finish you got on yours? bearing in mind mKI mKII Erly corrado grilles were finished like this, but the later 3 slat corrado grill were very textured. you got any pics of that? AFAIK there was only 2 types of standard VW-grille for the corrado.....the pre-92 multi-slatted one and the later post-92 3 bar :wink: .......as for priming the grille i would imagine that you would need to do this even with these types of paint as it will make the paint stick to it a lot easier(unless of course the paint manufacturer states differently).....tho one thing either the primer or the paint will need is a plasticiser in it........to give it some degree of flex otherwise it'll likely flake off or chip off easily...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 oh, sanding of the grill was a definate, im just not sure if i even need to prime it with these kind of paints. and i dont want any sheen as part of the finish. is this the sort of finish you got on yours? bearing in mind mKI mKII Erly corrado grilles were finished like this, but the later 3 slat corrado grill were very textured. you got any pics of that? AFAIK there was only 2 types of standard VW-grille for the corrado.....the pre-92 multi-slatted one and the later post-92 3 bar :wink: .......as for priming the grille i would imagine that you would need to do this even with these types of paint as it will make the paint stick to it a lot easier(unless of course the paint manufacturer states differently).....tho one thing either the primer or the paint will need is a plasticiser in it........to give it some degree of flex otherwise it'll likely flake off or chip off easily...... Yeah, but i was talking about the MKI golf, the MKII golf and the early corrado grill :wink: as it was in relation to Supercharged's golf mention :wink: Jut found this and reckon its worth a try....[web]http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8219[/web] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted October 12, 2003 oh, sanding of the grill was a definate, im just not sure if i even need to prime it with these kind of paints. and i dont want any sheen as part of the finish. is this the sort of finish you got on yours? bearing in mind mKI mKII Erly corrado grilles were finished like this, but the later 3 slat corrado grill were very textured. you got any pics of that? AFAIK there was only 2 types of standard VW-grille for the corrado.....the pre-92 multi-slatted one and the later post-92 3 bar :wink: .......as for priming the grille i would imagine that you would need to do this even with these types of paint as it will make the paint stick to it a lot easier(unless of course the paint manufacturer states differently).....tho one thing either the primer or the paint will need is a plasticiser in it........to give it some degree of flex otherwise it'll likely flake off or chip off easily...... Yeah, but i was talking about the MKI golf, the MKII golf and the early corrado grill :wink: as it was in relation to Supercharged's golf mention :wink: ah ok....its just the way you worded it,it appeared to be in relation to the Corrado......so fair doos............one thing though about the "Frost's" product is that it is really for interior uses so might not stand up to the outside elements but under a tenner i suppose what you got to lose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted October 12, 2003 It was before I 'went digital' and this is the best pic i have, It gives you some idea tho... I'd say that from a metre away it looked like a late grill but as you got closer to it there was less texture but still looked like a proper factory finish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 vr6storm, well thats what i thought. cant go wrong really... dont need primer, but i reckon throw some on anyway, cant go wrong, might last better?? My mate used it said its good stuff really. if it flakes, i could always just repaint it... i reckon prime it it and bake it, might be all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubster82 0 Posted October 12, 2003 Supercharged, lookin good bud. i see what you mean, it fair takes of any shine that the ABS finish is givin. looked good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
