CazzaVR 0 Posted January 18, 2007 My aux water pump is knackered, so ordered a new one from ECP. Went to fit it tonight, removed old one, fitted new one. Went to plug it in, and the plugs are slightly different :mad: My old pump has one 'ridge' on the socket, whereas the new one has two :( Gutted after spending an hour wrestling with fracking VW hose clips etc. Anyway, I'd be grateful if someone could let me know if the top one here is the one I need. I ordered the fourth one down. I would get one from a stealer, but the nearest one is 40 minutes away, and they prob won't be able to get one in time. It's kinda urgent as I need the car for next Tuesday. Cheers Crap- link doesn't go straight to the correct page- go to cooling system, then water pump ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted January 18, 2007 I had the same problem on mine, but it turned out that at some stage, a loving previous-owner had hacked out the old pump and plug, plumbed in a Golf/other VR part and spliced in the plug for it. So I hacked that back off and put spade connectors on instead. It's a nasty bodge, but it works...for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Hmmm, hope I don't end up having to do that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpants baby 0 Posted January 19, 2007 Can you not just file off the ridge on the pump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted January 19, 2007 Aye, not a bad idea! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 20, 2007 That's a very good idea! Have been on the phone again with ECP, and they reckon they've found the correct one for me, and it's around £20 cheaper! Should arrive by Tuesday. Let's hope it's the correct one this time! Otherwise I'll go with bigpants baby's idea ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigowl 0 Posted January 20, 2007 CazzaVR. IMO VR6 seems to run OK with seized aux pump (dedicated 5 amp fuse blows then). Mostly we will not know pump/fuse has failed. I think it is merely a belt and braces thing to prevent head warping due to hot spots at certain times. I wouldnt run over 5000 rpm that way, though. 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 20, 2007 I think it is merely a belt and braces thing to prevent head warping due to hot spots at certain times. It also takes the strain of the heater matrix!! If it wasn't critical VW wouldn't have put it there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigowl 0 Posted January 20, 2007 Sorry, S'charged - did not know about heater matrix aspect. All I know is that my VR6 had been running for an unknown period of time with seized aux pump and I had experienced no problems whatsoever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted January 21, 2007 Yeah, I'm convinced the aux pump in my last C never worked and that was fine (until I bent it). I was driving this C with a gammy aux pump for weeks before I got round to fixing it. It's not a critical part in a "if it dies the engine will implode" sence as with the main water pump, but it is a good idea to make sure it works :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigowl 0 Posted January 22, 2007 I only found that the aux pump was seized when I found its 5 amp fuse was blown. Anyone know how you would you know otherwise? Car ran great with no overheating, funny noises, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Right, this is now getting ridiculous! ECP have sent me the wrong part 3 times! :mad: There doesn't seem to be any getting through to them what part I need. Each time they've assured me it's the correct one, and different to the last one they sent... So, I'm gonna get one from VW instead. Before I order it though, I want to make sure I've got the correct details. Does anyone have the correct part number? The one I need has a plug with just one 'groove', whereas the part ECP keep sending has two. It's identical in every other way. I could just file off the two ridges on the pump, but want to try and get the correct part first. Starting to wonder if it's obsolete. Your help would be much appreciated! Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted January 27, 2007 I only found that the aux pump was seized when I found its 5 amp fuse was blown. Anyone know how you would you know otherwise? Car ran great with no overheating, funny noises, etc. If you turn the ignition all the way on, you can hear it whirring. Plus I think it runs on after you stop the engine for 30 seconds or so if it's hot. CazzaVR - According to ETKA - 251 965 561 B "Additional water pump" is the part you want. No indication of how many lugs it's got on it tho :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Thanks Dom. Is that the only one listed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Just had a look at the one ECP sent yesterday and the no on it is: 0 392 020 024! Looks absolutely identical apart from the plug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxfordpaul 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Hi Cazza, I bought one for my 95 MY VR last year from the dealers and it's perfect. It is part number as above (W251 965 561 B) and was 78.54 plus VAT. Not sure how many lugs it has on the elec feed but if you need to know I'll have a look in the morning... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpants baby 0 Posted January 27, 2007 I have a few,one from a 1996 passat with 48k miles on the engine etc=offers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 27, 2007 oxfordpaul, would be very grateful if you could let me know- thanks! :) bigpants baby, ball-park figure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigowl 0 Posted January 27, 2007 According to ETKA - 251 965 561 B "Additional water pump" is the part you want. No indication of how many lugs it's got on it tho dinkus is correct. The one I bought from ecp in August 2006 for my 1995 VR6 has that number (called "reference no." by ecp) but their "part no" is 201440740 It fitted fine and cost £58 plus Vat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxfordpaul 0 Posted January 28, 2007 Hi, Pics attached as per request and the plug has one side with a protruding piece so I guess that means 1 lug like your old one.... Hope this helps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 28, 2007 craigowl, that ECP part no is the same as mine, but the number on the pump is 0 392 020 024, not 251 965 561 B. Surely the ETKA number should tally with the one on the pump? Getting totally confused here! oxfordpaul, cheers for those- exactly the same as yours. I'll just have to go and have a chat with the parts guy at VW and try to get to the bottom of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpants baby 0 Posted January 28, 2007 I have a few,only over the way from you,you can take your pick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted January 28, 2007 bigpants baby, can you PM me a price please mate :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigowl 0 Posted January 29, 2007 The ecp one I have was made by Bosch, just in case anyone thinks all ecp stuff may be inferior. :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dav 0 Posted January 29, 2007 Check this out: http://the-corrado.net/.archive/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
