Anyone have the part no's for timing chains and tensioners?

[Leonard 0]

After part no's for upper and lower chain and tensioner?

 

Anyone help?

 

Thanks

 

Matt

[VR6Joni 0]

This is the list I used from the Wiki I think, not sure its available yet. I also have a copy of the guide if you want. Price's are not correct but they aren't a million miles off.

 

TIMING CHAINS

(lower chain)

1 x lower timing chain - simplex 021 109 465B £30.26

1 x lower timing chain tensioner 021 109 467 £21.17

2 x bolts, lower timing chain tensioner N905 350 01 £0.14

1 x lower timing chain guide rail 021 109 469 £2.93

1 x lower pin 021 109 471 £1.38

 

(upper chain)

1 x upper timing chain - duplex 021 109 503A £60.98

1 x upper pin 021 109 511 £9.08

1 x Bolt, tensioner for Golf Mk4 top pad 021 109 507B £23.81

1 x Tensioner, Golf Mk4 top pad 021 109 509E £7.14

1 x mid pin 021 109 515A £5.78

1 x upper timing chain guide rail 021 109 513 £7.89

1 x hex bolt N010 272 4 £0.26

1 x hex bolt N010 352 10 £0.64

 

 

CLUTCH

Clutch clutch kit; p/plate, f/plate, release bearing 021 198 141AX £120.00

 

6 x 12 point head bolt N101 010 01 £0.32 each

 

1 x Guide sleeve 02A 141 180A £8.07

1 x Oil seal 085 311 113 £12.10

1 x Round seal N903 543 01 £1.86

 

3 x spline socket head bolts N903 554 04 £0.25 each

1 x clutch release arm 02J 141 719B £13.76

1 x Spring, clutch release arm retaining 012 141 741 £0.38

1 x Ball Pin, clutch release arm pivot pin 02A 141 777 £2.38

1 x Grease for clutch plate G 000 100 £4.96

 

FLYWHEEL

1 x Flywheel 021 105 269BX £73.95

10 x flywheel fixing bolts N905 398 01 £0.90 each

 

Jonathan

[Leonard 0]

Hey thanks m8 that is great!

 

Just trying to decide wether to do everything now whilst I change the clutch or wait a bit longer... :confused4:

 

If you have the Wiki guide you can email me that would be superb

 

Matt :)

[KADVR6 0]

theres a brand new kit for sale on ed38 mate

[mariojoshi 1]

If your gearbox is coming off....

 

I'd say defo do the chains! Most VRs are certainly coming up to the point where they could do with a check.

However, you're in a good position to actually have a physical check over them and see what's what. If the car is going to be off the road for a week or so, could always wait, inspect and then do it if need be.

 

What's your mileage?

[Leonard 0]

Well that's the thing car has 'only' done 84k and feels pretty tight. Certainly not very noisy.

 

But then I thought I may as well get my local guy to do the chains whilst he is fitting a clutch. Then when I take car to Stealth after that to get the 263 cams and VSR fitted get new tappets then.

 

Do I need new valve stem as well? They arent the same as tappets are they??? :confused4: LOL

 

Cheers guys

 

Matt

[KADVR6 0]

heres the link mate

 

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.p ... pic=204098

[gogsboy 0]

Is that all compatible kit then? All VR's identical as far as chain parts go? Can this also be bought from Ford

[Leonard 0]

heres the link mate

 

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.p ... pic=204098

 

Cheers bud. I have just bought those exact ones off the same guy ending his auction early on ebay :lol:

 

Could have saved myself £2 if I had seen that Edition Ad earlier :grin:

 

Matt

[MonkeyVR6 0]

What mileage do the chains need replacing? I've just passd 90,000 miles and my engine is noisy :confused4:

[mariojoshi 1]

http://www.arz-tuning.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p734_VR6-Dual-Timing-Chain-Kit.html

 

:confused4:

 

Trying to work out whether to get the big V @ stealth to just order it all in, or get some parts myself.

[Jim Bowen 1]

there is also a kit on ebay at the moment, brand new, might be the same one mentioned already

[VR6Joni 0]

To my surprise the wiki is still there in its entirety:

 

Part 1

 

Part 2

 

Jonathan

[Storm Warning 0]

How likely is it that the flywheel needs doing too when changing the clutch after 100,000 miles? :confused4:

[mariojoshi 1]

I'd imagine unlikely?!

Never heard of anyone replacing a flywheel.. other than to get a lightened version.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong guys!

[Leonard 0]

Certainly not planning on doing mine when I get the clutch done next week!

[MonkeyVR6 0]

Have this major job coming up me thinks. Am replacing the gearbox at the end of the month anyway, so figure I might as well do the rest of the stuff.

 

I don't suppose that anyone knows if I were to supply the parts for a garage what is the average amount of labour they'd charge? :?

[VR6Joni 0]

To replace the gearbox, its no more than an extra hour to do the chains so definitely worthwhile. VW quoted 10-12 hours (none of the mechanics there had done it before though) so would be in excess of 1K. I recon a specialist could do it in 8 though and that's being generous. So it all depends on what the hourly rate is. I did it on the drive in 4 or 5 evenings taking it steady, unless you've never used a spanner or have no tools its easily do able by yourself, plus a friend for gearbox handling. Have a quick read through the guide on the wiki.

[MonkeyVR6 0]

Well my mate and I are changing the gearbox and clutch anyway, of which he's more than capable, although I didn't know how easy it was (or not) to do the chains and tensioners...people seem to make quite a big deal of it.

[ANDREW 30 0]

This is the list I used from the Wiki I think, not sure its available yet. I also have a copy of the guide if you want. Price's are not correct but they aren't a million miles off.

 

TIMING CHAINS

(lower chain)

1 x lower timing chain - simplex 021 109 465B £30.26

1 x lower timing chain tensioner 021 109 467 £21.17

2 x bolts, lower timing chain tensioner N905 350 01 £0.14

1 x lower timing chain guide rail 021 109 469 £2.93

1 x lower pin 021 109 471 £1.38

 

(upper chain)

1 x upper timing chain - duplex 021 109 503A £60.98

1 x upper pin 021 109 511 £9.08

1 x Bolt, tensioner for Golf Mk4 top pad 021 109 507B £23.81

1 x Tensioner, Golf Mk4 top pad 021 109 509E £7.14

1 x mid pin 021 109 515A £5.78

1 x upper timing chain guide rail 021 109 513 £7.89

1 x hex bolt N010 272 4 £0.26

1 x hex bolt N010 352 10 £0.64

 

 

CLUTCH

Clutch clutch kit; p/plate, f/plate, release bearing 021 198 141AX £120.00

 

6 x 12 point head bolt N101 010 01 £0.32 each

 

1 x Guide sleeve 02A 141 180A £8.07

1 x Oil seal 085 311 113 £12.10

1 x Round seal N903 543 01 £1.86

 

3 x spline socket head bolts N903 554 04 £0.25 each

1 x clutch release arm 02J 141 719B £13.76

1 x Spring, clutch release arm retaining 012 141 741 £0.38

1 x Ball Pin, clutch release arm pivot pin 02A 141 777 £2.38

1 x Grease for clutch plate G 000 100 £4.96

 

FLYWHEEL

1 x Flywheel 021 105 269BX £73.95

10 x flywheel fixing bolts N905 398 01 £0.90 each

 

Jonathan

 

Hows that for good timing just the parts i was about to look for, and the thread gets bumped for me to find! :D

[KIPVW 0]

Certainly not planning on doing mine when I get the clutch done next week!

 

Dont be daft!!! Get it done while its off, i know of a very well respected chap on here who's tensioner was in bits with only just over 70k on the clock and this was down to low miles not high miles. It's a complete no brainer to me if the gear box is coming off :wave: :cuckoo: :wink:

[Leonard 0]

Certainly not planning on doing mine when I get the clutch done next week!

 

Dont be daft!!! Get it done while its off, i know of a very well respected chap on here who's tensioner was in bits with only just over 70k on the clock and this was down to low miles not high miles. It's a complete no brainer to me if the gear box is coming off :wave: :cuckoo: :wink:

 

I cant even remember writing that? LOL

 

My gearbox has been off and on more times than my underpants the last 6 months! Complete nightmare :(

 

Anyway my chains are all done now. As you say my upper tensioner was down to the rivets on my 84k car.

 

I honestly dont believe there can be any VR's out there now that don't require the chains doing.

 

Matt

[Storm Warning 0]

I honestly dont believe there can be any VR's out there now that don't require the chains doing.

 

Matt

 

When mine were done at just over a 100k there was barely any wear on tensioners, I guess you just don't know until you get at them. On the other hand my clutch was quite worn and there was a couple of hair line cracks.