NEW Corrado 2012

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Nope! Never have been, never will be! It's a pig ugly, bulbous and disproportionate spud of a car. In my own opinion of course :D

 

I have tried to like it, honest, looked around and sat in several whilst at the dealers but I just really do not like them at all. Sorry!

 

I take it you're talking about the Scirocco then? I thought you meant the Audi until you started mentioning sitting in several at the dealers!

 

To confirm, I like the Audi. Not a great fan of the Scirocco.

 

Correct matey. I was responding to RW1's very informative post about the wait times on a Scirocco R, then I digressed into disliking them anyway :D

 

It's ironic how people criticise the Corrado's cabin for being too dark and sombre, but the Rocco's is even darker and I found it to be borderline claustrophobic!

 

It does feel well screwed together though and I like the frameless doors, but other than that, there is nothing about it that appeals to me.

[RW1 0]

It does feel well screwed together though

Its a plastic-mobile ! :lol:

That was my biggest shock but's only a daily driver, up for sale June 2012 - Dec'2012. 22,000 miles, lovely runner.

 

And it still weighs in at 1350 - 1400Kg !! And squeeks, rattles & moans like nobodies business. Blows No3 piston. Has no heater and what else.... oh, and has a mind of its own when it comes to the electrics and opening windows when it's raining when you ain't near it.

 

I like the frameless doors, but other than that, there is nothing about it that appeals to me.

 

Not in this weather you won't!! Not when its frozen up and the windows don't drop and the only way in is take the parcel shelf out and climb through. :roll:

 

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[Kevin Bacon 5]

/\ Awesome! :D I like even less now then :lol:

 

It's when I read things like that I feel lucky to have an old car!

[RW1 0]

I might add I have a good one and have none of the listed problems above others are having, as like the Corrado, the cars are variable in build. Except maybe the heater :scratch:

 

Climb back into the Corrado and it does feel dated. Funny though, the Mk2 Scirocco doesn't :confused4:

But can't beat the VR6 growl.

 

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[Kevin Bacon 5]

You're right there, but it feels dated in a nice way, like a comfy old chair that's been in the family for decades :D

 

Everytime I get out of a modern VAG and back into my C, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything at all. Yeah MK6 Golfs and things are tight, rattle free and smooth, but so are all new cars. Give it 10 years and the MK4, 5, 6 7, 8 et al Golfs will feel worse than a 15 year old Corrado feels now :D

[rado2 0]

We have a 10 plate ibiza that the missus uses and it is horrible after 6months it rattles has no feel ,the steering is so vague that you could run over a small animal and not notice. I agree that modern vag cars are just not as good i think the only top quality motor in recent years in the mk5 gti as it was stopped early due to being to expensive to build so that tells you its good for the future . Good job we have the corrados to ease the pain of the current trend .

[too hot 0]

We have a 10 plate ibiza that the missus uses and it is horrible after 6months it rattles has no feel ,the steering is so vague that you could run over a small animal and not notice. I agree that modern vag cars are just not as good i think the only top quality motor in recent years in the mk5 gti as it was stopped early due to being to expensive to build so that tells you its good for the future . Good job we have the corrados to ease the pain of the current trend .

 

Yeah the MK5.5 was another VW cost cutting exercise as you say. Its build quality is much poorer than the MK5.

Its also good to have the Corrado to look at and see how they used to build cars!! 8) 8)

New Corrado seems to be just another urban myth :lol: :lol:

[Tempest 0]

Give it 10 years and the MK4, 5, 6 7, 8 et al Golfs will feel worse than a 15 year old Corrado feels now

 

If they manage to last that long, the MK4, 5, 6 7, 8 et al Golfs that is. In 15 years time, no-one will be able to fix any electronic probs any more, as it´ll all be totally outdated, no new software available to fix, etc.

 

New Roc blows piston #3 ? :nuts: The oldest ones are barely 3 years old :shock: .

 

Climb back into the Corrado and it does feel dated. Funny though, the Mk2 Scirocco doesn't

 

Ah, good chances at Stanford Hall then with a certain Mk2 Storm Roc :lol:

 

Tempest

[RW1 0]

New Roc blows piston #3 ? :nuts: The oldest ones are barely 3 years old :shock:

 

No, not the only Scirocco, all that 1.4 TSi 160ps Twin Charger engined models are affected. Knock sensor coding was out in the ECU software leading misfiring ... to direct injection cylinder wall washing .... leading to piston ring failures within weeks of delivery. Generally No.3 but sometimes other cylinders. :roll:

 

Been rectified by software released in September 2010 but damage can't be put right if already incurred. VW are rapidly running out of new 1.4TSI 160ps engines at the moment cos it covers such a wide range of models. And they are changing out bad engines without much questioning/arguement under warranty rather than rebuild in the dealers. Hopefully the new software has finally solved it. Certainly drives better since I had the update. VCDS checks on mine show no misfires either before or after of the nature that leads to the problem.

 

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[Portent 0]

Give it 10 years and the MK4, 5, 6 7, 8 et al Golfs will feel worse than a 15 year old Corrado feels now

 

If they manage to last that long, the MK4, 5, 6 7, 8 et al Golfs that is. In 15 years time, no-one will be able to fix any electronic probs any more, as it´ll all be totally outdated, no new software available to fix, etc.

 

New Roc blows piston #3 ? :nuts: The oldest ones are barely 3 years old :shock: .

 

Climb back into the Corrado and it does feel dated. Funny though, the Mk2 Scirocco doesn't

 

Ah, good chances at Stanford Hall then with a certain Mk2 Storm Roc :lol:

 

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I was having this discussion with my brother recently. Although parts are gradually being obsoleted for the Corrado, it’s not impossible in the future that you could get some of them fabricated if absolutely necessary. But modern cars will also have electronic issues as they grow into old age and there’s not much you can do to fix those. Unfortunately I think that also means that the small specialist garages will also die out as they are less able to fix modern cars without expensive equipment.

 

I might add I have a good one and have none of the listed problems above others are having, as like the Corrado, the cars are variable in build. Except maybe the heater :scratch:

 

Climb back into the Corrado and it does feel dated. Funny though, the Mk2 Scirocco doesn't :confused4:

But can't beat the VR6 growl.

 

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Maybe that’s because you expect a Scirocco to feel old and the experience is exactly what you expect. But with a Corrado it’s still modern enough to expect it to compare to recent cars... which it doesn’t. It’s probably just all about expectation rather than the car itself.

My brother had a mk2 Scirocco Storm and I loved it.

[jamiehamy 0]

 

It's ironic how people criticise the Corrado's cabin for being too dark and sombre, but the Rocco's is even darker and I found it to be borderline claustrophobic!

 

I was getting tyres fitted at VW last weekend and had a sit in the Scirocco for the first time. I tried to be objective and work out if i would prefer it to the Corrado. I found it dark and bland, and as you say, borderline claustrophobic.

 

When i got back in the Rado my mind was made up. The Corrado is a far more pleasant environment to live in!

[Portent 0]

 

It's ironic how people criticise the Corrado's cabin for being too dark and sombre, but the Rocco's is even darker and I found it to be borderline claustrophobic!

 

I was getting tyres fitted at VW last weekend and had a sit in the Scirocco for the first time. I tried to be objective and work out if i would prefer it to the Corrado. I found it dark and bland, and as you say, borderline claustrophobic.

 

When i got back in the Rado my mind was made up. The Corrado is a far more pleasant environment to live in!

 

I’ve sat in a couple of new Scirocco’s and noticed that the trim level is very different. Cars with the base level of trim really do feel cheap and plasticky, to the point that the inside door handle flexed as I opened it to get out. Cars with the higher level of trim seem better but I can’t recall why (leather on the handles???).

 

I also looked at a newish mk6 GTI and while it was a nice place to sit I found the interior quality very poor in comparison to my mk4. The switches were flimsy and the roof moved as you pressed the switches in it. They had a 1 year old mk6 GTI on the forecourt. Admittedly it had every possible gadget ever invented on it. But it was £31k for a used Golf. That’s just madness (this was about a year ago).

[Kevin Bacon 5]

 

It's ironic how people criticise the Corrado's cabin for being too dark and sombre, but the Rocco's is even darker and I found it to be borderline claustrophobic!

 

I was getting tyres fitted at VW last weekend and had a sit in the Scirocco for the first time. I tried to be objective and work out if i would prefer it to the Corrado. I found it dark and bland, and as you say, borderline claustrophobic.

 

When i got back in the Rado my mind was made up. The Corrado is a far more pleasant environment to live in!

 

I'm not especially tall or large framed but for me the elbow and head room were too restrictive. Visibility wasn't great either. The doors were too high and the tailgate window too small.

 

Compared to the roomy, bright and airy MK5 GTI, it was a total dissapointment.

 

As has been mentioned a few times already, I think the MK5 GTI is easily the best modern offering from Volkswagen right now.

 

Oh and the only people I've seen driving a Scirocco on the roads have so far, been women :lol: It's just a fashion accessory like the Bini and MK1 TT. You can't move for the things in Essex. Practically every hair dresser and estate agent has one. The 'Hairdresser's' car stereotype is there for a reason - Essex :lol:

[big ben 10]

never seen a woman driving a rocco yet around me, its all young males in suits acting cool, must be estate agents as you have said kev :lol:

[RW1 0]

Well this popped out of the woodwork as the S. Mk4 from the Netherlands in August 2010 but i don't really beleive it.

 

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[VeeDub Geezer 0]

If they rereleased the Corrado it should be based on the A5.

 

The Scirocco is not a coupe and never will be!

[coullstar 0]

You having a laugh, the A5's are massive.

[8vMatt 1]

If they're thinking of the A5, then maybe a shortened version like the Quattro concept could happen as they like to cross use components to save money.

[VeeDub Geezer 0]

You having a laugh, the A5's are massive.

 

To be fair, the Corrado is quite a bit bigger than the Mk2 Golf so would be about right. A5 is based on the A4/Passat chassis so wouldn't be too far from the original either.

[Redfox 10]

Hi all,

so, what happened to the Mk. II Corrado? Is it a dead fish?

 

In my book, VW should build one, again let Karmann take the building, to add exclusivity, as way too many people drive audi's today, and the brand lost it's high profile. Also VW have dropped down in quality to compete less with audi.

It needs to be bigger, because all new cars add a bit of size, and it should have 4wd and a relative big engine, not a little pumped up 1,4 tripple charged burner. A new Corrado needs to be bigger and more potent and certainly more powerfull that a MK. III Scirocco, and also better than a TT. TT's are SO boring and soulless, as most audi's are these days. No shape, and hard to say if you look at it from the front or the rear.

The Corrado was not built by VW, so the new shouldn't be either. It was a very expensive car, because it was better made (in performance and quality) and lesser made (in numbers) than any VW say audi at the time.

Having tried a number of audis, old and new, I would surely not want a new Corrado to be a gimmick'ed audi. No, exclusivity and low numbers, plus a performance that looks right into Porsche.

Corrado was vw's first better sportscar, and the only one to date. So should a MK. II Corrado be.

Anyway I find it appauling that vw is lowering quality and not daring to make a real sportscar, (like the REight), because of audi. It's better to compete with yourself that to compete with other brands outside vag.

 

I, for one, would surely like to see a new Corrado, but it needs to be exclusive, and a real sportscar, not some scirocco like thing. In fact the Golf should be dropped, because it so over broing to look at and drive, and it looks like a 15 year old honda civic. That goes for mk. 5 and 6. VW can do it, thay have done it before, and should do it again.

 

Cheers,

Redfox.

Edited December 21, 2011 by Redfox

[coullstar 0]

VW dont make cars purely to please people, their first goal is to make money. Therefore even considering dropping the Golf would be pure suicide. Remember 95% of people buying cars couldnt give two ****s about handling on the limit or acceleration so why invest billions of euros to develop another Coupe car when they have a perfectly good one at the moment (thats the Scirocco by the way, I have one and it is every bit a modern Corrado). I believe a Scirocco Mk4 is on the cards, maybe they will name that the Corrado but I doubt it. Get the Corrado blinkers off please.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

In fact the Golf should be dropped, because it so over broing to look at and drive, and it looks like a 15 year old honda civic. That goes for mk. 5 and 6.

 

I hope the GTIs are excluded from that statement? The MK5 and MK6 are the among the finest handling cars VW have ever made and imo, the MK5 GTI looks great. Far from boring.

[Redfox 10]

Sorry to be a little hard on the edges, not entirely fair, but let me clarify myself then:

 

I like a Golf, I've had one for 12 years, and tried most of the breed, incl. 650 Hp bi-turbo Mk. IV, in which I overtook and outgunned a quite okay 911 Carrera 4s. 306 km/h on the gps. But there is more than Horses. There's drivingfun and road performance. Sorry guys, but already in the Mk. IV the rearaxle got a little soft and made a little boring driving experience. It did not have the togetherness the Mk. I and II had. Other people may have a different oppinion, and that's perfectly allright with me ;)

I like that in the past VW dared to make the GTi concept, that in fact they were first between many makers to introduce certain styling items on ordinary cars. Without vw's super idea of the gti, we wouldn't have seen great cars as pug 205 1,9L Gti and many more. They were inspired by vw.

The problem these years in my humble view is, that VW somewhat lost their daredevil, they got soft to please the many. After all, Golf is the most produced car in the world.

What I see the Corrado as, is the opposite: a car that dares to be different, it does not try to please everyone, and it's a sportscar. Not an extreme one, but still.

I like the Scirocco, and the idea that vw rebuilt a new one. But to me, the Scirocco mk. III is what Golf should have been: a different car that still pleases most. That's what I mean by dropping the golf - the present one.

Over the years, golf got more and more soft, but better in quality. after audi came along to make many more cars to a larger crowd who have money to throw at nicer cars, vw decided to cut down the better quality in the same time as they got soft. That is why golf today is completely uninteresting to me, and I am sure many more people, who wanted a hot hatch or an inspiring car. Speaking of driving, the Mk. I and II are surely the most fun to drive. Not the fastest, but the most fun.

They got heavy, sloppy, slow for how many Hp's they have, and now they also lost some of their quality, bacause audi must not loose territory to a lesser brand... ;(

It's all on a relative scale of course, but still. I think you get my point.

All respect to people who bought the Scirocco mk. III. But they are what the Golf should have been. That is what I mean by dropping the Golf - keep the name, and make a better car - the scirocco.

A new Corrado should be in a different league, exactly as the Corrado was in 1988 when it first came on the market.

When the Corrado came on the market, the Scirocco mk. II was still there, and honestly there's a difference. The same there should be today.

Do you remember how many good praises the Corrado recieved? Many. Also a lot of parts bin car ;) It was in some oppinions a better car or similar to Porsche 944. I know that vw is not Porsche and won't be. But they got real, real close. A Scirocco today is not close to a Porsche, because it's not a sportscar. But a real smart hot hatch. Even if vw should incorporate more sophisticated technique into the Scirocco mk. III, we may see audi saying auch, don't step on our toes, as they have been doing. In my humble view, the tt is a lot worse that a Scirocco mk. III. But it does not change the other statements.

A new Corrado should again be a sportscar, not a hothatch or just a good normal car.

 

No offence intended, but I really hope that vw developed their cars since a 1988 Corrado into a 2009 Scirocco mk. III. Else vw and others would be in a sorry state. But which is the more fun to drive? I'll take the Corrado any day. There's some reasons for that, amongst them the height, fun to drive, looks, handeling, feel of what the wheels are doing, accelerator pedal preasure, brake pedal preassure, 2 person car (I can't stuff someone into the back, and thanks for that ;) and then some. Each to his own of course ;) That's why it's fun to try other cars, and to debate them.

 

I still think todays golf's are really boring to look at. The intimacy they caught in the first few models were so enchanting or whatever it's called. Smart lights etc does not make up for pure fun. Yes, they worked on the Mk. V abilities to make a better car than the mk IV, but I still think they got away from the point somewhat.

 

Since English is not my native language, I want to ask what does "Get the Corrado blinkers off please" mean?

This is after all a thread about Corrado Mk. II or? I think some of the drawings etc we've seen in this thread are quite interesting. Just my two-pence (not n....y euro).

 

I agree with you coulstar, that most people don't give a dime on how cars drive, perform, feels like, etc, they just want a peoplecarrier. I congratulate you on your Scirocco, but I think vw could have done more to make it special. Some more R eight like (not the specific car, but the idea). It really does not apeal to me, as a 20 (gosh) year old Corrado does, but I fully respect if it makes your day ;) That is just great. I don't say that just because I got one, but the general idea. For example I think a volvo P1800 is a real fun car to drive, and it also looks really good, and being really special.

 

To summarize my view, I'd say that vw got into this "one car fits all", and that's certainly not my cup of tea. I guess my next car will be older and more rare kind of type.

I hope I cleared it up a bit as to my earlier statement.

 

Anyway, what happened to possible ideas of a Corrado Mk. II?

 

Come on VW, make us something great again!

 

Cheers,

Redfox.

Edited December 21, 2011 by Redfox

[C5 OEM 0]

[Abdul 0]

 

If only!

 

The rear end has a lot of corrado in it imo.

 

Looking at it again the whole roofline and the rear quarters resemble the rado a fair bit too!