Instructions on changing VR6 front brakes???

[jedi-knight83 0]

I seem to remember seeing some instructions in the form of a word document with pictures, showing how easy it is to change the front pads and discs....i remember seeing it an thinking....ah that will be handy in the future...can i find it now i need it??? NO!! :oops:

 

Anyone know where it is???

 

I am a complete novice at mechanical stuff to be honest...always paid someone else to do it ......but i thought i would try to learn......and the document / instructions would be a great help!!!

thanks

[Joe M 0]

This doc?

[jedi-knight83 0]

that looks like the one. cheers matey

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Moved to servicing....

[jedi-knight83 0]

ok ta.

 

i just had a look at this....i need to change the discs as well...is it much more work to get the rest of the caliper off?

[Joe M 0]

Just read it again myself to check, with the caliper moved out the way, its just a case of taking out the retaining screw in the disk and it should remove easily. The screw doesnt always come out easily though, I had to drill them on my 16v.

 

I also notice from that it says to use a clamp to push the piston back pushing the fluid back into the reservoir. I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars as it can knacker the seals or something in the abs pump. :? You need to loosen the bleed valves when pushing the piston back so the fluid drains out from them.

[jedi-knight83 0]

with the caliper moved out the way

 

that only shows how to move part of the caliper... the bit with the pads...there is still a bit covering the discs.

 

I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars

 

i really dont want to go to the hassle of bleeding the brakes afterwards to be honest.

 

looks like i may just pay someone to do it after all!

[Joe M 0]

with the caliper moved out the way

 

that only shows how to move part of the caliper... the bit with the pads...there is still a bit covering the discs.!

 

Ah, just noticed that, I was thinking of another car. :oops:

Pretty sure its just 2 bolts at the back (17mm's maybe) and the carrier lifts out the way as well.

 

I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars

 

i really dont want to go to the hassle of bleeding the brakes afterwards to be honest.

 

looks like i may just pay someone to do it after all![/quote:7d6c2]

 

Im not 100% on this so if anyone else knows for definate feel free to let us know, ive got this job to do soon as well. :roll:

[jedi-knight83 0]

Quote: I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars

 

 

 

i really dont want to go to the hassle of bleeding the brakes afterwards to be honest.

 

looks like i may just pay someone to do it after all!

 

 

Im not 100% on this so if anyone else knows for definate feel free to let us know, ive got this job to do soon as well.

 

 

im sure its not the case. i have never heard it before. My old honda had ABS and im sure the mecanic didnt do that when he just changed pads.

[Henny 0]

I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars

 

I have always done it that way, so has my mate who's a mechanic... :? :roll:

[jedi-knight83 0]

coo, so maybe its just a false alarm....i'll give it a go if i dont have to play with the fluid....and then i'll get the fluid changed when i have my next service.

[Kevin Bacon 5]

I'd be a little concerned if servicing the pads and discs could wreck the ABS pump! I see where Joe's coming from though....

 

K

[Supercharged 2]

Hmmmm.... I have been told you should bleed some fluid when changing the pads as it forces fluid from the piston back into the brake line but did not associate this only with abs cars?? I have always just changed them and pumped the pedal to repressurise the system (I don't have a brake bleed kit and have always got the fluid changed reguarly)

 

Got me thinking now! - I can imagine why this is thinking about the way ABS works!

[Joe M 0]

Had a look about on bentley and it just says to remove the fluid cap and push the pistons back as normal.

[stormseeker 0]

I dont think you can do this on abs equipped cars

 

As said already, yes you can.

 

The ABS system is designed so that with it turned off, disengaged, failed or whatever, the plumbing for the hydraulics appears just like a standard brake setup.

[jedi-knight83 0]

well its pretty easy actually. just done it. few things to add to this

 

make sure you have a couple for spare screws for the discs... the single screw that holds the disc on, mine broke when i took them off.

 

second.. make sure you have a big enough G clamp to fit around the caliper and push the piston back in!! i didnt and had to get one before i could finish.

[Joe M 0]

8) , when I done my 16v I didnt bother putting the screw back in, I figured the disk was held tight enough with the wheelnuts anyway.

Ive got the backs to do as well, the bearings and winding back the piston seems straightforward enough but do I need to loosen off the handbrake or anything? :?

[Supercharged 2]

Always get new screws for the discs, the front pads push back and if using a clamp, spread the weight using the old pad to avoid damaging the piston seals...

 

The rears are more tricky, you need to unclip the handbrake cables and you WILL need a tool to wind back the calipers otherwise it will be a very long hard job! - Halfords sell the tools and the converter plates depending on which type calipers you have, I remember Vince (Stealth Racing) saying he has seen 2 types on the C, one with an allen hole in the centre and the other which I have where there are two small holes on the outside of the piston, opposite to each other.

[jedi-knight83 0]

heres the pics of my brakes past and present.. the old ones were pretty shot!!!

 

there is also a pic of the 2 bolts on the back of the carrier (as it was asked how to get these off) its easy, just 2 bolts and it comes off, there the same size as the wheel bolts which is handy 17mm i think

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Is the Mercedes on the field trying to ram-raid through that fence?

 

Those old discs have seen some action!

 

K

[jedi-knight83 0]

yeah, the merc kept trying all day... the fence won though :lol:

 

Old brakes were worse than i was expecting!!!

 

new ones feel great now though 8)