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I am a bit torn on what to do.

 

Seeing a few fault codes (MAF / Lambda) and engine is a bit noisy. I have got the DG cams in there and the DG map, I've done chains, clutch and all the associated little bits so don't really want to throw that lot away as I have an investment in the existing VR6 engine. Wondering what I'm looking at in terms of costs on the engine and associated bits. Think I might need some new internals - tappets, lifters, valves, etc - it's all a little bit of a mystery to me I must confess. I can't diagnose what's up by listening . . . .

 

Then I stumbled on Storm Developments website offering R32, R36 and 2.0 TFSI conversions.

 

Obviously this isn't going to be cheap (I'll find out tomorrow what the costs are) but I quite fancy that. However, need to understand the implications - Insurance is obviously going to change as it's now "modified" but wondering what else is likely to be involved. I've upped the brakes so would hope they would be up to the job, suspension was freshened up. Would the power be too daft for my little 15 inch wheels? Do I need a new exhaust (I need one anyway)? Do I need a new clutch? Gear box?

 

If, for example, the conversion costs £3k all in then that's quite a big chunk of cash but I imagine it would be amazing vehicle - classic looks but with modern reliability and performance! And in theory no more to spend on the engine for lots and lots of miles and therefore a fair few years.

 

But if I can sort my issues out for, say, £1k and know for sure the engine isn't going to give me any more bother then that would be good too.

 

The only people I would trust to honestly appraise my engine would be DG Autotech but for me it is a PITA to get there for a diagnosis, then leave the car for the required time to resolve. I have heard mixed reviews for local specialists (I'm near Epsom in Surrey) and although I am happy to spend for a good job, I don't want to be "done" by someone taking advantage.

 

I know at the end of the day I have to just plump one way or the other but I'd be interested in opinions / experiences to assist with the decision.

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educated guess it will cost you £5k-£7k !!!

hopefully you will prove me wrong,by a long way !

15" wheels ok,a bigger exhaust will be needed,gearbox should be strong enough if in good condition ! LSD might/will be needed,dpending on how much power attained.

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I would advise against doing the conversion unless you can do it yourself.

Just look at how difficult it is to sell a converted car.

I would also guess that it would cost at least £6k to have a garage do it for you.

You know your own engine by now so you know what your dealing with anything else s a bit of an unknown quantity

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Yikes - I guess I was kidding myself on the costs. Would be more sensible to sell up and buy a GTI or an R32 at that rate, although then it wouldn't be a Corrado which would make it a bit pointless.

 

So, it's a case of get the MAF, the Lambda, the exhaust and maybe the valves or whatever is making the noises sorted out. Any recommendations for a trustworthy garage near Epsom? Or is there a forum member who wants to earn some cash?

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I think the 5k+ estimate is entirely plausable I'm afraid.

 

Personally I'd stick to the VR6 engine rather than the turbo, I think it's the heart of the car and what gives is such personality - the muscle car grunt delivery. I accept a lighter turbo lump will probably drive better in the bends though.

 

The R32 conversion sounds nice, but I'd always be thinking "why didn't I spend the extra on the R36" so to be honest I'd be looking at either end of the spectrum...

 

The R36 I assume will come with the 2yr/20k service intervals too??

 

Really interested to know the costs and what you decide to do.

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there was an R32 storm on ebay recently, think it sold for £5000? theres aslo a nice looking 1.8turbo corrado on there atm, anyone know anything about ether of them?

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I've heard nothing but good things about the Phirm in Surrey. I'd go with refreshing your existing engine if I were you, sounds like you've got a lot invested in it already.

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Speaking from experince Id say try what you can to keep it original as possible unless your going all out on the car and intend on keeping it for a long time. I dont regret getting my 24v conversion and I still maintain its a better engine than the 12v but unless your doing everything yourself you will loose out on a lot of money and find it harder to sell the car.

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If you're really stuck I have an used MAF in my spare parts box. I grabbed it in case of future MAF issues myself but you're welcome to pop it on as a test to see if it resolves your issues. I'm also in Surrey (KT10 postcode).

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Before I moved downunder I took my Storm to the Phirm and was very impressed. I was a little apprehensive beforehand as my car is in original condition and their website seemed full of Mk3/Mk4 Golfs in various lairy disguises. However the guys down there appeared to enjoy having an original car to work on. Like you I'd been a DG regular but with the Phirm being just 20 miles from home rather than 120 I could get the repairs done during midweek and not worry about my Saturdays being used for long drives up the M40.

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If you're really stuck I have an used MAF in my spare parts box. I grabbed it in case of future MAF issues myself but you're welcome to pop it on as a test to see if it resolves your issues. I'm also in Surrey (KT10 postcode).

 

Extremely kind offer - I have just ordered one online. Looks like it is very old so I reckon a new one will be of benefit anyway.

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Thanks for the input guys and gals. I think the keep it standard idea is the best in the long term, for me at least. I do not have the skills to do this myself, therefore not the money to get a top quality install professionally done.

 

So I will be getting a local VW specialist (Tutts of Dorking) to have a look. I will definitely be having a new MAF and exhaust and then see what else needs sorting.

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I've seen these pictures before, I'm sure of it. Is the owner not on here? From what I recall I read a massive thread on this and he spent THOUSANDS doing that conversion and all the other stuff. Not a bad buy for £4,750 I reckon??

 

Jim

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Yeah it was a guy called Biggerbignben (sp) that did the conversion for his mate. He previosuly built a lovely 4wd 1.8T, TVR dashed blue Corrado. http://www.coupehaus.com/

 

Thats a decent price, if it was a different colour I might have put in an offer.

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