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Hella Heater Matrix. Are they any good?

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Hi guys, just had the dreaded heater matrix disaster whilst the car was in for its MOT!

 

Tried getting a genuine part but they've been obsolete for a while now I believe. So that left me with a choice of Euro Car Parts or GSF... Euro are selling a part manufactured by EIS (£29.46), if anybody is familiar with them..? And GSF offer a standard (own brand) or a Premium brand (manufactured by Hella). Priced £33.00 and £47.64 respectively.

 

I went for the GSF Premium one on the logic that the dearer part would probably be the better product...

 

Just wondered if anybody has had one of these in the past and knows if it's likely to last a while as the last thing I need is to have the car in bits again in another couple of years!

 

Thanks,

Kev

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Hi Kev

Im not sure on the GSF ones but i thought the valeo ones were the manf to go for - hopefully someone will confirm

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I got that one from GSF. I thought it was a valeo item, which is why I went there in the first place, but behr/hella are a respectable brand so should be ok. Mines been fitted about a year and no probs so far.

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Hi Kev

Im not sure on the GSF ones but i thought the valeo ones were the manf to go for - hopefully someone will confirm

 

Behr is a german refrigerator/cooler system company.either one is good gents. Just stay away from the generic eBay ones

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Behr is a subsidiary of hella. Or the other way round.......

Either way, it's marked behr/hella on it!

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Thanks for the reply guys!

 

it turns out that the Hella ones supplied from GSF are wrong! Although it's listed as a Corrado VR6 Heater Matrix on their website, it's actually for a MK3 Golf! Seems the website is wrong.....

 

The plastic plate that sits behind the bulkhead was on completely the wrong angle, and the matrix itself didn't quite fit into the heater box...

 

Anyway, long story short, I took the old unit to Euro's today and they did a search from the VW part number on it and it's the cheap EIS one that is the correct fit.

 

It is exactly the same part that came out of the car (which has been in about 5 years, with very limited use) minus the part number being stamped on the plastic. It looks identical to the eBay Febi-Bilstein ones that are for sale for £35.

 

Does anyone know if there is an alternative brand available from anywhere else? I'd sooner chuck this one in the bin if there is a better alternative out there for more money. Don't wanna have this again in another few years...

 

Thanks,

Kev

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Ive always been advised to go Valeo..

 

I haven't done the job yet but thats what ill be going for...

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Search for a valeo one mate part number on my receipt is 812031 the website i originally got mine from dont sell them anymore but that part number was exactly the same valeo one i took out of mine minus the VW stamp

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Cheers for the part number John! I'll keep looking around.

 

I've put a pic up of the problem I described above in case anyone else has the same problem in future...

 

The top matrix is the Hella/Behr one from GSF (£47.64) and the bottom one is the EIS one from Euro's (£20).

 

If you look closely at the angle of the plastic plate on the pipes you'll see that they are different. The Hella one will not fit into the heater box without excessive force and the plate is angled wrong to fit against the bulkhead when it is in place inside the heater box.

 

The cheaper EIS one is a good fit and the plate is on the correct angle once fitted into the heater box. Just wish I could find a hella or valeo unit that was the correct fit as this EIS one looks pretty poor quality tbh...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]78676[/ATTACH]

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The good thing about the valeo one i got too is it came with all 3 gaskets that were needed

Nice find diarmaid16 said youd just have to google the part number

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Just had a quick google and found this:

 

http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/1103706

 

£40 posted

 

Turns out to be more like £50 posted, the web page price is misleading, it adds tax and postage at checkout, a customer service box popped up so I pointed out that it was misleading and got offered 3% discount.

It's a German company though and I forgot to ask if it was right hand drive version before ordering

Anyone know if that part number is specific to right hand drive version?

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What make was the one you took out?

 

It didn't have a brand on it John, it had a VW part number stamped into one of the pipes though (1H2819031A) but I'm pretty sure it isn't a genuine part. It looks exactly the same as this snide one from Euro's...

 

Just had a quick google and found this:

 

 

http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/1103706

 

 

£40 posted

 

 

Thanks diarmaid16 that's spot on! Got it ordered. Will post pic up when it arrives and compare it to this EIS one from Euro's. Hopefully it'll be money well spent...

 

Thanks again for your help guys. Much appreciated!

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Turns out to be more like £50 posted, the web page price is misleading, it adds tax and postage at checkout, a customer service box popped up so I pointed out that it was misleading and got offered 3% discount.

It's a German company though and I forgot to ask if it was right hand drive version before ordering

Anyone know if that part number is specific to right hand drive version?

 

Hi Gus. Yeah it is a little misleading, but typical of these online ordering companies. It is definitely the right hand drive part if you've used the part number that ends in 31. The left hand drive part is the same but ends in 30 so you're safe.

 

Cheers

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Cheers for the part number John! I'll keep looking around.

 

I've put a pic up of the problem I described above in case anyone else has the same problem in future...

 

The top matrix is the Hella/Behr one from GSF (£47.64) and the bottom one is the EIS one from Euro's (£20).

 

If you look closely at the angle of the plastic plate on the pipes you'll see that they are different. The Hella one will not fit into the heater box without excessive force and the plate is angled wrong to fit against the bulkhead when it is in place inside the heater box.

 

The cheaper EIS one is a good fit and the plate is on the correct angle once fitted into the heater box. Just wish I could find a hella or valeo unit that was the correct fit as this EIS one looks pretty poor quality tbh...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]78676[/ATTACH]

 

They're not LHD vs RHD are they?

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To anyone wanting a Valeo one. The best parts link above came up trumps £40 delivered.

Edited by VAG-hag

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Thanks for the reply guys!

 

it turns out that the Hella ones supplied from GSF are wrong! Although it's listed as a Corrado VR6 Heater Matrix on their website, it's actually for a MK3 Golf! Seems the website is wrong.....

 

The plastic plate that sits behind the bulkhead was on completely the wrong angle, and the matrix itself didn't quite fit into the heater box...

 

Wish I'd found this thread back when mine went. They sold me the same (wrong) part, but because I didn't get around to even attempting to fit it for so long they now refuse to take it back.

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They're not LHD vs RHD are they?

 

No, they have the wrong type of hose fitment inside the engine bay too. It's just the wrong part full stop.

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I got a Hella unit in my car now.

 

The one before was the original unit! Damn, it had hold up great all these year!

 

But, it fitted like it should, and it works great.

Cant see why anything would be better? The only ones that can be called a better unit is the ones with metal flanges so it will never ever crack.

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