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To me Bridgestone Adrenalins were the best tires I ever fitted on my g60, best grip ever, too bad they don't make them anymore, so I am now with Michelin Pilots, more quite but not as sticky in the dry as the Adrenalins. Pilots are also better in the rain but don't take it out in rain anyway, only if it happens when I'm out.
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There is only one solution to have great suspension and the desired stance and this is the b14. It is not cheap but not too expensive (as the KW) but all your problems will be solved. After trying any spring/damper combination possible and never been happy I got the b14 and been happy as can be. My other Corrado is on KW which is also great. Both are spring adjustable so you can play with the gaps at will.
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as soon as I took delivery out of the dealer in 1990 I noticed a tremble on the steering wheel at highway speeds,I went back to the dealer and it was founsd that the tyres were on 28 psi pressure all around so they fixed it in front of me to 41 front and 36 rear, those were also the factory settings on the door frame sticker, and the tremble was gone. Afterwards I set them at 39/35 as hardly ever used to drive it at full load. As for the shocks when it came time to be changed for the first time I didn't go factory but elected to go Bilstein yellow, I was alsounder the wrong impression that aftermarket was going to be better, that's back in 1996, and that's when the fitter told me that the factory were oil shocks. It didn't take me long to realize it, as my ride went quite harsh but was advised that the car would now handle better so that was the tradeoff. Apparently all I enjoyed since was the harsh ride as I did not notice any visible difference in handling, to the opposite I kind of had to learn to drive my car again. I went back to the shop and the engineer who happened to race rally cars took me for a drive with my car.I was absolutely frightened, ****ed my pants with his driving and how amazingly the car handled at high speeds and in turns but unfortunately I was not a rally driver. Yes the bilstein suspension brought the best out of the car but to do so you had to have the skills and I didn't. nevertheless I kept the set and that's how I sold the car 5 years later. However I was not able to enjoy the comfy ride and feel of the oil shocks so I had to always fiddle with the tyre pressures in order not crash the chassis everytime I was on rough roads. yes the ride got softer then,lost some of the handling but unfortunately riding 30/30 or 32/32 pressures cost me numerous visits to the wheel refurbishing shop as the 3 piece BBS that were fitted from factory were quite sensitive when in rough contact with path holes.I now have in my g60 the same wheels but do not go below 35/32 so as to minimize any risk in bending them. Back then I used the good old gas station gauge for pressures but always doublechecked them at a tyre shop. I do the same today, only I also have in my garage an analogue and a digital gauge, seems the digital is the closest to be accurate.
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Tyre pressures back in 1988 were set basis the suspension at the time which was oil shocks, when today we are using gas shocks we should also use tyre pressures adjusted not only basis the harsher dumping action of gas shocks but also basis the stiffer todays tyre walls. Its a no win situation as our cars, talking for g60s, were built basis an oil shock suspension, which admittedly did a landmark job and set a reference for handling and comfort. Don't know if also the vr6s were factory equipped with oil shocks, but the factory tyre pressure for their 205 50 15 tyres of 33/29 would most probably indicate that gas shocks were used.
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Cant say if its accurate, it gives 34/30 for my G60, unless it takes into consideration what I was saying about new tyres and pressures vs old tyres and pressures.Looks logical to my standards of today but far from factory specs of 39/36.
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Since VR6s from factory were set for 33/29 for 205 tyres on 15s, I think 36 is a bit high for 17s for the weight of the car. My guess would still be 33/29 as per factory's 205 on 15s considering today's 17s tyres are more rigid than 15s of 25 years ago. It would make a difference also in comfort. Best judge is yourself as long as you don't go overboard with the numbers.
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New tyres are more rigid and do not deform as the old ones. Must be taken into account that those pressures were relevant to the tyres built 30 years ago. Unless we fit a tyre similar to those, which is impossible, the tyre pressure on new fit tyres for the specific car should be lower. New tyres are built taking into consideration they are made for heavier cars, as safety and extra equipment and features as well increase in dimensions made the cars heavier, but the G60 Corrado at abt 1140 kg is considered light compared to, say, the current Golf at abt 1300 kg, when back in 1988 the Golf weighted much less that the Corrado. Obviously tyre pressure of 39-41 for the front is way too high for todays tyres and for a car of abt 1140 kg. If you also take into consideration that replacement shocks are mainly gas shocks, which are good for handling and endurance but not for comfort, the combination of the two makes for a punishing result for the driver and most importantly for the car's body integrity as todays tyre with high pressure and gas shocks combination offer little if any absorbance.
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I was always wondering if tyre pressures recommended by factory almost 30 years ago should still be the same today with the new tyres fitted on cars being different in structure and built. My guess is since todays tyres are better built, better reinforced, better threaded, better compounded than 30 years ago, which makes then also firmer, the tyre pressure recommended 30 years ago should get some reconsideration. Talking mainly for the g60 version where the recommended tyre pressures of 30 years ago was 39/35 (half load) and 41/36 (full load ). Used to have from new a g60 back in 1990 and remember the ride was not as harsh as today's. Well this also had to do with the fact that oil shocks were fitted from factory but anyhow I think that a drop to 35/32 half load and 37/33 full load should be more than safe today.Talking for 195/50/15 tyres as the later fitment of 205/50/15 had no issues and pressures were down to usual todays specs for such type of a car. This is also strane, for a mere 1 cm more in width and .5 cm in height, the 205/ tyres were down to 33/29 pressure! Come to think, maybe instead of playing with pressures on a 195 to get a 205 and be fine!
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a bit late but early g60's rear springs were 309 mm, they used to ride much lower and stiffer than later models.
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amazed that noone answered, well this is for a g60 earlier model but I think they are the same, door lower length 117 cm bottom inner front arch to rear front arch 177 cm front inner arch to door 16 cm rear inner arch to door 44 cm
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hi, have not taken it off the car yet, another guy asked me as well, I ll let you both know if I decide to part with it.
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Thanks, tlc all the time and never enough but that's the fun of it. You get bored with todays cars that don't let you take care of them!
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I wish I knew the brand of the clutch in my other Corrado, maybe its fresher. All shops I know dealing with VWs work Sachs clutches as they are the ones fitted from factory. Maybe I ll just experiment and go ahead with a new Sachs clutch and see if its any better. Only thing holding me back is the fact that the clutch is still good, no slipping at all under any load and any shifting, only a little hesitant some times when shifting quickly but that could well be due to its cable shifter.Never were quick shifters!Strange that my other G60 shifts smoother but has more travel.
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I think that my g60 has a hard clutch pedal. That's how I got it a couple of years ago though, my other one I had from new back in 1990 as long as I can remember was not that hard to disengage, I remember I changed it after abt 80 k km when it got harder but If I recall not much had changed other than a slight difference. Anyway I kept it like this for another 6 years but since I was living in the center of the city with a lot of traffic, that had an impact on my knee, which I still carry today, considering I had driven it there for most of the 210 k km by the time in 2001 when I sold it to get a family car. Wondering if there is a tested clutch set that would require less effort and knee force to disengage. The standard VW is Sachs or Luk at later stages if I'm right. I have another g60 as a future donor, still a runner, although the charger is done, and the clutch is much softer but disengages a bit higher. Don't know what kind it is. Any suggestions if there is a set that requires less knee abuse welcome.
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updated my photos, took them today, some of them are at my garage so excuse me the little mess around it.