scabbyscala 0 Posted February 3, 2005 Hi peeps, had a lotta-lotta hassle trying to get VR6 topmounts sorted out for new suspension on a 2.0 16v 1993 Corrado. First of all i bought the VR6 rubber topmount and bearing thinking that this was all i need.....................Wrong! - i realised this as i tried to fit the 2.0 16v upperseat spring caps and the VR6 topmount together, The 2.0 16v spring cap seat is too deep/tall to allow the VR6 topmount and bearing to fit on the damper shaft so i trudged 30mile away to my VW dealer to get new VR6 spring seats but they didn't have any in stock (surprise#1) but could order them so i told them to get them in for me................6 days later i get a call saying my VR6 spring seat's are in so i trudged back to pick them up only to find out that they had ordered a totally different spring seat (surprise#2), apologies were accepted and the correct VR6 spring seat was duly ordered...................5 days later i get a call saying my spring seats are in stock, so i trudged 30mile yet again to pick them up (it'd be easier finding the holy grail i think) and this time i took my new shocks and springs and VR6 rubber topmounts with me to ensure that everything fitted together, the parts guy handed over the spring seats and things were looking good as they were definetly of a shallower design than the 2.0 16v items and i almost broke out in a smile, apart from the fact that as i placed them on the damper shaft i realised that the center locating hole in the spring seat was too large and it slipped all the way down the damper and rested at the bottom(surprise#3)..................Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! - Fu#k-Fu#k-Fu#kity-Fu#k!!! , there are two types of VR6 top seat and i've got the wrong ones - At this point i'm starting to lose the will to live and feel like curling up in the corner with a blanket over my head, the car has been up on axle stands outside my house since the 10 January and i really-really need it on the road..............the parts guy said that the other type of VR6 spring seat is on back order so he would try to find one at another VW dealers and he would call me later...............I got a call as i was driving home (in my new GT 11) but passed it over to voicemail - so i get home and retrieve my voicemail and it's the parts guy saying that there is only 1 VR6 spring seat in the country and they are waiting on more coming in from Germany ,he couldn't tell me when this would be and could i call him to discuss the options. I'm going to call him today (thursday) but will check on here first. Can anyone out there help? as i'm banging my head against a brick wall here (or i could bang it against a crippled corrado i suppose). Can anyone could find out the part number of the spring seat i need, so i know for definate that i'm after the right one as i don't really trust the VW parts dept anymore (although they are very nice and all that, i still wouldn't trust them to stack shelves in a supermarket). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted February 3, 2005 I could be wrong here but I think the its normal for the spring seat to slide down the damper, its the spring that holds it in place when fitted. Pretty sure its like that on my Konis anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scabbyscala 0 Posted February 3, 2005 Oops! - never thought it would be a totally different fit on the damper rod............is this right?............if so i'll have to crawl on all four's into the parts dept and hide my head.............God i feel like a plonker!...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevemac 0 Posted February 3, 2005 scabbyscala, Don't feel such a plonker - from memory, the bearing clamps onto the top of the shocker shaft & holds the spring seat in place. Give our sales dept a call tomorrow 0121 626 7970 & ask for Russ - so far as I know, we keep any parts that you'll need for this conversion in stock. If we don't, phone Mick at JCT600 in Wakefield 01924 291129. Mick is the Parts Supervisor there & also a good friend of mine. He will be able to sort your problem out. Mick sorted the parts out when I changed to VR top mounts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scabbyscala 0 Posted February 4, 2005 stevemac : Cheers for the offer.......... but i went back to the dealer yesterday and got advice about the fit of the topmount from one of the technicians/mechanics rather than the guy who works in the parts dept and he assured me that the part i had was the correct upper spring seat and it's designed to be a "floating design on the shaft and is held in place by the bearing" , so i collected the spring seats and managed to get it all working - I'm a happy chappy now :D , took them a big box of M+S choccy bics for their tearoom as thanks and this will hopefully mean i can pop in any other time and get advice etc . When i bought the VR6 top mounts, (along with new springs/shocks+bumpstops allround, X-drilled discs/pads allround, engine/gearbox oil + oil filter , s-plugs, pipercross filter, fuel filter,both r-wheel bearings, 2 outer cv-boots, antifreeze + new bolts allround in brakes/suspension) i made a point of saying that i was doing a conversion from a 2.0 16v to VR6 top mounts and i need everything for the conversion....I was assured that i needed the bearing and rubber mount - nothing else!, HA!.......that was a joke, I ended up needing the springseat and the upper collar that sits inside the bonnet area as well. Only got one problem now...........The ABS light stays on and doesn't go out :( , i hope its just because i removed the hubs and disconnected the ABS connectors.....although i couldn't hear the ABS pump working when i switched on the ignition so knowing my luck i've prob buggered something up :cry: . It's been a freakin nightmare doing all the above work as the guy who had it before my brother did most of the work on it himself as he was a vw nut..........Just about every bolt/nut was knackered and the heads were rounded off/threads stripped, so i think his tool kit must have consisted of a 5lb lump hammer, chisel and a set of stilsens. The rear brake caliper carrier bolts were an arse!, so was the fuel filter clamp and the 4 nuts that held on the fuel pump assembly - nightmare :mad: . Thank god it's all done - best part of £500 spent (i bought the parts and will put it through it's mot as he's skint after buying the car) and god knows how many hours/days/nights crawling about outside my house , just got to get that ABS light thingy sorted, get it's mot and the camber/tracking done and i'll gladly hand it back to my brother. Why o' why did i train as a mechanic all them years ago? - i 've been out of the trade for 10 years but i still get asked to do all my family's cars......and friends.........and neighbours...........got to learn to say "Bugger-off" :lol: . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted March 21, 2008 Right, just reviving this... I appear to have bought some of the same upper spring plates as above, ie the hole is the same size as the damper shaft so is a floating design... I have also noticed they are exactly the same height as the JOM lowering caps for the early suspension (and about 1/3 of the price!) but also are angled slightly as well so may affect allignment?? They also seen to have a flatter edge where the meet the VR6 / plus suspension bearing so thinking they may last longer too... Does anyone know the advantages / disadvantages to using these plates??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borachris 0 Posted March 2, 2012 Does anyone have part numbers for the required parts for this, I want to use VR top mounts on my 93 2.0 16v Any help appreciated :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
