g60griff 0 Posted October 2, 2005 whats the symptons of a faulty knock sensor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riley 0 Posted October 2, 2005 pinking id imagine,or maybe it could work the other way too and be too sensitive? and cause the ignition timing to be retarded,meaning power loss? id wait till someone who knows what theyre on about answers tbh :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g60griff 0 Posted October 2, 2005 yeah i thought it was that i just wondered if it would give the symptons all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riley 0 Posted October 2, 2005 i think it would,unless it was the wiring that was the problem if it had a bad connection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g60griff 0 Posted October 2, 2005 dont know if its that or not, went out in today and it was pulling like a train felt really quick no a problem with it at all. the only time it splutted a bit was when i dropped to second and went round a mini round about at some pace, it sort of held back a bit a 4000rpm then kicked in and pulled hard upto 5500. i drove pretty hard for about half an hour down some lanes then drove home. i went out in it about 3 hours after this and it was hesitant in all gears at 4000rpm really annoying because of how it run previously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevemac 0 Posted October 2, 2005 Remove the knock sensor from the engine block & re-torque it down. Can't remember the exact torque setting - something like 12Nm from memory. If it's too tight, it'll be too sensitive - too slack, not sensitive enough. Also check the wiring - often wears if it's been cabletied in place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted October 3, 2005 The correct torque for the VR6 is 15 lb.ft. As Steve says, too loose and it doesn't pick up the detonation, too tight and you'll probably crack it. Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g60griff 0 Posted October 3, 2005 but mine is a g60. does anyone know what the correct torque setting is for the g60 knock sensor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samg60 0 Posted October 3, 2005 same as the Vr 15ftlb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted October 3, 2005 If you are getting pinking for a reason unconnected with ignition timing, such as incorrect plugs or carbon deposits in the combustion chamber, the knock sensor will detect this and try to compensate by winding back the timing and flattening the top end power, and you'll still have the pinking !! I speak from the bitter experience of having the wrong plugs installed by a garage (which shall remain nameless) which was causing very bad pinking. I had both knock sensors replaced at great expense, to no avail. Once I had spotted the problem and rectified it, the engine was back on full, smooth power and without a trace of pinking. And fuel economy improved substantially. The moral is; "check your plugs". Even if they are the correct specification, they may be defective. Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted October 3, 2005 What were these plugs in question, out of interest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Don't remember the exact number of the wrong ones, but they were Bosch plugs for an ABF engine, not an ABV. Once I put in the correct NGK items, BKR5EKU, all was back to normal. I got 6 of them from http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk, £23 incl. VAT and p+p, delivered 18hrs after ordering. That's a,..........er..........."plug". Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Blassberg 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Correction to the link; it's http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk Best wishes RB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted October 3, 2005 ABF, isn't that the 2.0 16V? In which case they'd be 3 prong Bosch plugs with heat range 6 (one colder than VR6). They're not a disaster area, in fact a lot of people use them in supercharged VR6 applications and they run fine, bearing in mind the engine is effectively a normal VR below 4000ish rpm. Odd, but anyway, glad you got it sorted and eventually found the problem....at least you'll not need knock sensors for another 10 years now :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites