Taggart 0 Posted May 31, 2006 How much of a pig of a job is this to do? Just got my Neuspeed rear ARB, so was hoping to fit it this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niges16V 0 Posted May 31, 2006 They look quite easy except for removing the bottom strut bolts which is a pain if you have coilies. Let us know how you find the bar, I'm almost convinced on getting one myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted May 31, 2006 The Neuspeed bar uses rose joints to not sure if you actually have to undo those bottom strut bolts or not... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted May 31, 2006 The only difficult bit with the Neuspeed is fitting the clamps round the rear axle. The Eibach is a lot easier in that respect as they're just stainless bands, but the Neuspeed ones are full on steel brackets. Seriously good quality bit of kit. I'd try the rose joints in the middle of the three adjustment holes and then move it out to the outer hole if you want a sharper turn-in. Make sure you cake the rose joints in copper grease or they'll seize....but you can replace them if need be. On the strut bolts, it's easier with an assistant to move the wheel up and down to aid bolt removal, but it's doable on your own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Bolts are OK, I've got my beautiful assistant ;) They were out a couple of weeks ago, so should be fine! It was my beautiful assistant that tried to convince me it would be tough, the instructions looked easy enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS VR6 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Like Kev said, the hardest part is getting the brackets around the axle...its hell to do on your back. If you have access to a lift...it will make life a whole lot easier. Also...don't forget to grease the bushings once a year. Use a good lithium type, water resistant grease. They kick azz...you'll notice a difference from the first turn you make! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Cool, guess I'll be doing it on my back though, no access to a lift. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Is it easier to fit the rose joints or the brackets first? I've got so much to do this weekend, not sure when I'll find the time. Fit this Fit new Momo wheel Go to work :( Watch footy Tidy Flat (the missus is away, so it's a right tip) Change the wishbone bushes on my missus' polo Go out drinking (well, the TT races are on) Watch some Motorbikes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lippy 0 Posted June 1, 2006 i've been meaning to get over to he island for the TT for years... my grandma lives over there. I remember being young and seeing all the bikes on the promenade in Douglas, the atmosphere was ace! enjoy a pint for me ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 enjoy a pint for me ;) Did last night ;) Still fairly quiet, but when Tom and I were enjoying a pint last night down at the Beer Tent, you could see them pouring in off the boats. Should be a good weekend! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niges16V 0 Posted June 1, 2006 They kick azz...you'll notice a difference from the first turn you make! Ooo, comments like that make me want one even more! I'm getting my rear bushes done at the end of the month so planned to change the front to poly's as well before forking out for the 4-wheel alignment. I could always postpone this for a while and get a ARB instead! What you thinks?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 1, 2006 It's true. Gets rid of understeer almost completely. Much better turn-in. Get it ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olly elworthy 0 Posted June 1, 2006 ARB`s are awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niges16V 0 Posted June 1, 2006 ahhh nutz, the Mrs is going to kill me! Oh well, spose it's best to get all the tricks on and enjoy them while the engines going well! Ooo, just been promoted after 2 yrs! CF Regular, sounds cool eh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Hopefully this will be fitted saturday morning then. Going up to my dad's at 9AM Any idea on how long it'll take, think I'll be flying solo doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Neil- 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Has anyone got any pictures of this beacuse im thinking of gettnig one but not sure exactly what it is and how it attaches? And how much are they? Neil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Quite expensive. IIRC couple a hundred odd. Fit's on the bottom of your rear struts, and to rear axle beam Fitting guide is on the Neuspeed website PDF File Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niges16V 0 Posted June 1, 2006 im thinking of gettnig one but not sure exactly what it is Classic! :lol: The Eibach set (front & rear) is about £225 or the Neuspeed rear is £145There is also a GB for the H&R's at the mo which is a good deal.. The Oracle that is known as Kev reckons you only need the rear "takes it to the next level" he says" Scalett also swears by them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 1, 2006 Yeah imo just the rear one is fine. There's quite a beefy one on the VR as standard anyway, at 20mm. The Eibach front ARB is 22mm. Neuspeed's front ARB is a frankly ludicrous 25mm! Understeer city! I've tried the Neuspeed rear + front - didn't like it. Heavy handling and understeery and the front bar rubs on the floor it's so darn big, and HEAVY! Took the front off and left rear on = Perfect ;-) Tried the Eibachs as a pair = Excellent. A tad understeery but much less so than the Neuspeed combo due to the sensible sized front bar. Currently just running the Eibach rear and a rear turret brace. The steering can feel over responsive sometimes with just a rear and the front helps balance that out...but with a bit of u/s. It's swings and roundabouts! If you're an oversteer man, go for it with the rear bar and maybe consider the 28mm Neuspeed bar :-) If you're a play it safe man (sorry, 'person', being PC and all that), fit the Eibachs as a pair. Next on my list is MED caster plates which I'm doing tonight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24V Renshaw 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Keep us posted on how effective they are Kev... Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gradeAfailure 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Aye, Laura's (soon to be Jim's) valver has Koni adjustable suspension and Eibach arb's, and she whups my ass round corners - it's like a blinkin' go-kart! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 MED caster plates What are they, Kev? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Rich. 0 Posted June 1, 2006 Where do you lot buy these? Is the h&r rear as good as the Eibachs? Or is that the boy to get? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taggart 0 Posted June 1, 2006 I got my Neuspeed from Awesome GTI I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 1, 2006 xbones, these are the MED plates mate:- They replace the OE top mounts and are just a solid mount with a spherical bearing (360 degree rose joint in English :-) ). I suspect there'll be a little more vibration with solid mounts but you've still got the tyres and suspension to take the brunt of the shock, so it shouldn't be too bad. You have tonnes of negative and positive camber adjustment, aswell as Caster. I think these add 1.5 degrees caster, taking the VR from 3.25 degrees to around 5. I'm told the steering will be lighter with these as the spherical bearings are much less resistant than the OE bearings. Adding caster improves straight line stability, adds self centering and improves front end grip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
