Standalone ECU on G60....

[Ronan 0]

I'm preparing to build my fully forged/balanced 2.0 g60 lump, and just wondering how many people have used standalone management, and also if anyone has ditched the distributer and used coilpacks/individual coilpacks on the g60 before? I'd be interested to know if you removed the pulley, or just shortened the shaft and blanked it, like with the balancer shafts on an Evo.

 

Cheers.

[Supercharged 2]

I think RPM do a custom one but not sure what it entails...

[_Monkey 0]

How much power you going for?

 

There was a guy from Holland (I think) called Johren Dik, you may have heard of him, he's created some crazy horsepower G60's in the past (some 16v G60's too) think he could get just over 400 bhp on standard managment! :shock:

[Ronan 0]

Well, the engine builder is looking for 300 at the moment, I'm aiming a little lower!!

 

There's a lot of good stuff going into this engine - we're looking into every possible detail really. Looking to use a Megasquirt ECU I hope, so a lot of the mapping will be done by us, and finally mapped on a RR.

[BigTartanJudge 0]

The guys name is Jeroen Dik, and his mk1 16VG60 / corrado 16VG60 produced between 300-350BHP max, but he was running silly-small pulley etc.

[_Monkey 0]

The guys name is Jeroen Dik

 

Damn! Knew it was something like that! :lol:

 

But my point is the management is good for big horsepower, I maybe wrong here, but didn't volkspeed run g60 management on that 20v block that they put a dizzy and a s/c on in that caddy?

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Most of Jereon's parts were straight off VW Motorsport's shelves aswell, including the Rally grade G-Lader (with toothed drive), which is why it was able to take the pulley size he ran and make the power. The rest he made himself. He and Larry Edwards pretty much pushed the powerful VW scene back in the early/mid 90s.

 

Yes, easily possible to dump the Dizzy and run coils as most Standalones have internal coil preamps. You will need a missing tooth crank sensor and ring though and if you want sequential injection, you will also need a cam position sensor.

[Walesy 0]

Have a look through This thread of JD Installs - some of them are mouth wateringly good, worth looking through to the bttom of the page.

[BigTartanJudge 0]

volkspeed did a few 20V G60 conversions, never knew they did a caddy, but I have a mag article on a VWM Rallye 20VG60 they did for a customer.

[VEEDUBBED 0]

If you have to go to the trouble of fitting a toothed crank wheel why not just fit a weber/marelli injection system instead?,i did it and it wasn't terribly difficult and there are loads of advantages such as already having 2 MAP sensors('91 version Lancia delta integrale),high or low imp. injectors can be used,can't find a mapped chip?,no problem,get 1 off ebay for a sierra or escort big turbo cosworth,even the chip off an ancient Lancia delta HF 1600 turbo will be fine to 1 Bar turbo press.

The FPR can be robbed off of loads of rusting fiats and deltas,there all the same,the throttle position sensors are fine red or black,they both work,you'll have to adapt the O/E digifart throttle butterfly unit or get the throttle body off a delta,sierra,fiat tempra,tipo 16v,alfa 164 turbo and so on.

You'll need the crank wheel off a '91 delta intergrale 2000 turbo,that's the important bit and only that model had it fitted,the ECU is tucked into the original position were the Digifart unit was,the whole injection loom is a seperate item as is the 2wd sierra cossy.

If you fitting the system to a KR or 9A engine there's no problem about the phase sensor because the drive dog on the marelli based dist.s are identical to the Vw Bosch unit so it bolts on,if 8v head get hold of the dist. off a red top sierra cossy and change the drive dog over,coolant temp. sensors has the same output as the 16v jobbie,coil wise you can use either the G60's green lable or the dry L.delta,croma.alfa type.

I make it sound a bit too easy but if you've got the skill to fit standalone(expensive) or use scrapyard parts(Cheaper) and achieve nearly the same results i say go for it.