ziderapple 0 Posted April 9, 2007 Seen these on the bay before, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with them, or opinions? I've seen 6 branch manifolds advertised in VW mags before for around 230. The same company also sell fairly cheap de-cat pipes for £39. Is it cheap junk or worth a look? (Perhaps I've become too used to being ripped off here in the U.K) Clicky Thanks. (Sorry about the mahosive link, I dont know how to shorten them :oops: ) Link shortened - dinkus ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CazzaVR 0 Posted April 9, 2007 Chris, these have a very good rep afaik. Have thought about getting one myself. Several people on here have them. You'll need to buy a lot of heat wrap for it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormchargedVR6 0 Posted April 9, 2007 I spoke to vince about a 6 branch and he said there not a lot of gain, i would'nt bother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j16jrf 0 Posted April 9, 2007 i have both the 6 branch and the decat pipe fitted with a full magnex system. I found the car a lot more responsive with these fitted and would highly recommend doing this, and the noise is gorgeous too. I dont know what sort of power gain is to be had with this mod but it is all beneficial Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted April 9, 2007 I spoke to vince about a 6 branch and he said there not a lot of gain, i would'nt bother. Other than sounding twice as good as a standard downpipe mate :) Do it fella - you'll love the sound. bit like a vr crossed with a scooby :) I've got the one in the link and absolutely love it. Going to go for the same de-cat too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chazrad 0 Posted April 9, 2007 I spoke to vince about a 6 branch and he said there not a lot of gain, i would'nt bother. Other than sounding twice as good as a standard downpipe mate :) Do it fella - you'll love the sound. bit like a vr crossed with a scooby :) I've got the one in the link and absolutely love it. Going to go for the same de-cat too. Hey this is gooooood news. I've got one of these and the decat pipe in the post at the mo'. Should be going on at the end of the week. Frankly, not that interested in a power increase. I just want it for the noise... :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j16jrf 0 Posted April 10, 2007 you will not be disappointed in this manifold or decat. The quality of the product is excellent too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatthis 0 Posted April 10, 2007 I spoke to vince about a 6 branch and he said there not a lot of gain, i would'nt bother. Other than sounding twice as good as a standard downpipe mate :) Do it fella - you'll love the sound. bit like a vr crossed with a scooby :) I've got the one in the link and absolutely love it. Going to go for the same de-cat too. u bugger u knicked my line :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted April 10, 2007 :) Sorry dude! I think it's one of the best mods around for a vr - totally changes the character of the engine note. All good :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatthis 0 Posted April 10, 2007 :) Sorry dude! I think it's one of the best mods around for a vr - totally changes the character of the engine note. All good :) signed 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekara 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Anyone go any sound clips with one of these fitted, im tempted for a little more noise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted April 10, 2007 I'll try and get one tomorrow mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatthis 0 Posted April 10, 2007 iits not louder just really sweet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ziderapple 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks for all the replies!! I WANT one now!! Be a good soundtrack to go with my s/c whistle :twisted: (sorry, couldnt help myself) I get paid friday, so I guess I know where its going. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double-6s 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Storm developments fit a 6 branch as part of their stage 1 s/c kit. A dub power one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatthis 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks for all the replies!! I WANT one now!! Be a good soundtrack to go with my s/c whistle :twisted: (sorry, couldnt help myself) I get paid friday, so I guess I know where its going. :) i cant hear my 6 branch now its wrapped and i have a charger cant really hear the engine at all till i give it the beans :( then its utterly viscious im not kiddin its bordering on painfull when you get overtaken at full chat by it its a proper psycho :twisted: :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted April 12, 2007 Good 6 branchers do make a difference, most noticably in the midrange. Pretty average ones will just make more noise and not actually contribute anything, so don't be fooled into thinking a sweeter noise = more power. The only tubular manifold I've personally seen that does increase power is the Supersprint, but they're LHD only unfortunately.....and 3 times the price of the Raceland! But it's like comparing a Mondeo to a Bentley to be honest and no offense! I've looked a Racey land up close and personal and I was impressed with the build quality, it's super beefy, so it should last the distance. The only thing I cannot confirm is if the runners have been properly designed to boost the scavenging effect or not, which is critical on NA engines. It's the loss of the cat that improves throttle response, not so much the manifold, but all 3 together (cat bypass, fanimold and zorsts) will see some [small] gains on the dyno....but the throttle response will be much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ziderapple 0 Posted April 12, 2007 I need to take my cat out as I'm sure my 'charger must be cooking it, plus probably not helping with overall performance. I need to do my head gasket aswell so I'm thinking I'll do the works while I'm doing that - 6 branch, de-cat, spacer gasket, smaller pulley and aquamist! So easy to spend money on cars, too easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamminvr6storm 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Agreed its a better noise, but for performance the de-cat is more effective. This is my experience as i have both, just my opinion :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chazrad 0 Posted April 12, 2007 I need to take my cat out as I'm sure my 'charger must be cooking it, plus probably not helping with overall performance. I need to do my head gasket aswell so I'm thinking I'll do the works while I'm doing that - 6 branch, de-cat, spacer gasket, smaller pulley and aquamist! So easy to spend money on cars, too easy. Yeah, but you won't regret it. Money well spent. After all, the big expense ('charger) is done. Now, its polishing up everything else to make sure you get the most out of what you've got (6 branch, decat etc), and it all lasts (Head gasket, Aquamist). Replacing the cat' is a good thing..you are right about the heat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 12, 2007 I have a 6 branch and a de-cat which I probably don't need now. mani is brand new, and i've started lagging it, de-cat hasn't been fitted to my car at all. still waiting on Jimmi with this turbo though... I'd heard good things about fitting both, hence me buying them :lol: send me a PM if your interested also have some gaskets knocking around (and a chrome inlet mani :lol: ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted April 13, 2007 I need to take my cat out as I'm sure my 'charger must be cooking it, plus probably not helping with overall performance. . Modern cats barely impose any restriction at all, but the VR6 one is fairly. Mainly because it's a huge, old design and with a restrictive 400 cell catalyst. Interesting what you say about cooking the cat but you'd be surprised what the stock cat can stand up to, although with a charger or turbo, the pressurised exhaust gases are trying to jump over several hundred hurdles instead of a nice 100m sprint to the tail pipe! I had a Milltek 100 cell metallic sport cat with my Supercharger and I have to warn you now, the charger destroyed it very quickly....so don't bother with sport cats, they're shite......good for flow, pants for lifespan. My advice is to defo decat and just pop the stock cat on once a year if you don't know a 'friendly' MOT tester who can poke their probe up a 1.0 Lupo exhaust instead of yours ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KADVR6 0 Posted April 13, 2007 or do what i did last time i went for an MOT. i took the old cat with me, and when the tester saw i had no cat on said "you wont pass without the cat on mate" so i gave him the cat and told him if he wanted to fit the cat for the MOT, then swap it back to the de-cat he could. i think he thought sod that, so like kev said, he just shoved the probe into another cars exhaust :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j16jrf 0 Posted April 13, 2007 you do not legally need a cat for MOT as long as your emissions are ok the legally there is nothing they can do. And that is FACT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eatthis 0 Posted April 13, 2007 does fi actually affect the emissions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites