dirtytorque 0 Posted June 6, 2007 Fuel pump no longer buzzes when I turn the ignition key. I have been having some running probs for the last month,i.e rough running. hesitation awful idle etc. Then the stalling stated. Now when I turn the ignition to the on position the fuel pump no longer makes the familiar whirring sound. Just in time for the Show season. :roll: So new fuel pump then I guess?! Is it a major PITA to change? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 24v 0 Posted June 6, 2007 There is a guide somewhere, but I cant find it :mad: which is a pain in the arse as I need to do mine too!! Found this mk4 one on vortex, and I dont think its much different. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2241752 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 So I guess I should rule out an electrical fault first. so I'm thinking fuel pump relay. Anything else electrical in line with these devices that would disrupt operation? cheers. j reg g60. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanVW 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Hi Mate, Fuel pump is easy (if a little expensive!) I susggest you try the fuel pump relay first as its much cheeper and just as likely (if not more so) to fail as the pump itself! You will have to do a search to find out the position and number thats stamped on the top, as the new one from VW will probably be different! Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Hi Dan, fuse position 12 according to the bentley bible. I just bought one so fingers x'd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanVW 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Cool :-) will keep my fingers crossed! Have you done the fuel filter too? Worth a shot if you havent done it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 I did think about that. if it was just the rough running still I would, but the fact that the pump dosn't buzz anymore when i turn on the ignition makes me think more relay or the actual pump. If changing the relay dosn't help then I will change the pump and filter. Wot do u think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 7, 2007 Worth doing in that sequence, yeah. The rough running could have been indicative of the fuel pump being on its last legs or the filter being so clogged it just couldn't get enough fuel through. Regardless of what you do, would strongly reccommend swapping the filter anyway.. they're not expensive and should be done as an infrequent service job - but never are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanVW 0 Posted June 7, 2007 You will probably be amazed at the state of the fuel filter straps mine where more rust than metal :-( And I still havent got new ones yet :oops: Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 I've got to go to a vw dealer 2day to pick up the company load lugger(passat) so I will let them bill me for a fuel filter. cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 7, 2007 Buy replacement clips for the hose on either side of the pump as well - they'll be totally shot by now and undoing them will probably be the death of them! New ones don't cost much! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 do you mean like the fuel injection system hose clamp jobbies as feautred in the link posted by stan 24v? Just incase I get a blank face when I ask for them. I'm looking at the manual now tryin to get a fix on the hoses u mean.The blue and black ones? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 7, 2007 I mean the hoses that run along the underside of the car and clip on either side to the fuel filter.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 7, 2007 sorry,i'm with you. thnks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigpants baby 0 Posted June 8, 2007 Im breaking a vr6 if anyone wants a pump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 8, 2007 tried ignition this am as I was gonna quickly change the relay b4 work. The pump is buzzing again now?!,Must be intermittent. However the strangest thing is that relay position 12 is empty.!?! Now there is a lone relay that isn't pluggen into the board,but just hangs loose suspended from the wires that it is connected into to. I have always wondered what this relay was for but I have never looked into it. Maybe it is the relay for the fuel pump?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 8, 2007 intermittent fuel pump? Could be an ignition switch fault.... have you ever changed it? It's only about £25 and is reasonably easy to do (there's even a guide in the Wiki that some kind person wrote ;) :lol: ) and could well be the cause of your problems... ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dogzyboy 0 Posted June 8, 2007 intermittent fuel pump? Could be an ignition switch fault.... have you ever changed it? It's only about £25 and is reasonably easy to do (there's even a guide in the Wiki that some kind person wrote ;) :lol: ) and could well be the cause of your problems... ;) Changed mine recently. Although it's not too taxing, it's fiddly, I'd recommend using the Wiki guide & DEFINITELY use a large cushion as suggested!! :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 8, 2007 changed ignition switch last year. The syptoms of that were that none of the usual ignition lights were coming up on the dash(battery light water temp etc),where as they do now?!?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 10, 2007 Ok,2 questions I can't help but think that when priming the fuel pump sounds slightly different. I hear that when they start to go they become noisy? If I buy a fuel pressure gague kit is checking the fuel pressure easy enough 2do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 11, 2007 Im breaking a vr6 if anyone wants a pump? what year is the VR? ta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 12, 2007 When replacing the fuel pump I don't need to replace the sender unit as well do I?!! The fuel guage works fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 12, 2007 From reading around it looks like I need to ask for a sender as well as it will be likely my present one will not fit the new pump :censored: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites