Erny 0 Posted January 15, 2010 Does or has anyone on ere drive or drove there corrado without powersteering? If so how is or was it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted January 15, 2010 It's been talked about before and was universally regarded as a terrible idea. Even if you were to remove the PAS rack, even with standard 15" alloys I think the steering would be WAY too heavy. If you had bigger alloys fitted, I think it'd be undrivable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Yeh I was also gunna ask what size wheels people had used if they had, I've seen show rados were it's been removed to tidy the bays, but that isn't why i'm intrested, more about gaining alittle extra room at the tunnel entrance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Critical_Mass 10 Posted January 16, 2010 I agree with Jim, it will be way too heavy making it undrivable. Whats the general idea with getting rid of the PAS? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted January 16, 2010 I've driven a mk2 vr6 with non assisted steering and it wasn't too bad actually. Parking was a bit of a workout though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walesy 0 Posted January 16, 2010 I drove a G60 Corrado with no PAS or supercharger for a few weeks and it was OK on the move, like Kev says it wasn't very easy to park! I wouldn't recommend removing it all together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Yeah PAS is only really useful at low speeds for parking, once you are moving then the wheel turns easily enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted January 16, 2010 My old mk2 didn't have power steering and even with a 280 steering wheel was fine, parkin was a bit of a ballache but I generally try not to park any were difficult anyways invade some other pratts havin a hard time parkin n dings ya, I do plan to keep my power steering but I'm intreste in syncro, and squeezing an exuast in the tunel with the propshaft is gunna be a tight squeeze, I'm simply tryin to find out as much as possible to help prepare me for the headaches and help with the shoppin list, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkijayne 0 Posted January 16, 2010 The Americans seem to do this a fair bit, and I really don't understand why :shrug: I have a mk2 with manual steering, and although it has a little more feedback than the Corrado it is a slower rack so it is less direct, and less stable at speed. It feels a lot less 'planted' than the Corrado does. They have the same size tyres, and the same suspension. The other way is just running a power rack with no power assistance, but that is horrible to live with in a daily driver, as its just so heavy. I don't think a manual rack will save you any space in the tunnel anyway - its pretty much the same size & shape as the power rack, but without the pipes, and they're on the end or front of the rack anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted January 16, 2010 Removing the powersteering rack and using a low spec mk3 subframe(no powersteering) would gain me about an inch an half in height and maybe ten across, I should have wrote all my measurements wen I was sat were the engine usually is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkijayne 0 Posted January 17, 2010 Wow really? It doesn't look like that much from above comparing the Corrado to the mk2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted January 17, 2010 I drove a MK2 VR6 without PS and it was so heavy at low speeds and parking you have to ask yourself why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted January 18, 2010 Drove today with no powersteering belt, and the corrado realy is heavy to drive, I know comparing to a mk2 without powersteering isn't ideal, but the handling of the two cars is drastically different, the mk2 without powersteering wasn't all that bad to park, but the rado was real heavy on easy simple turns, a three point turn was a work out, at higher speeds it wasn't noticeable. That's with 16x6.5 wheels up front James A friend of mine has a mk2vr from up your neck of the woods, that also dunt have powersteering. It is a bit of effort to manuver incomparison to the mk2vr I had with power steering and my old mk2 valver without, after driving my valver rado without today ied hate to imagine what a vr rado without is like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richardshoes 0 Posted January 19, 2010 let's not forget it's a parasitc loss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted January 19, 2010 Drove today with no powersteering belt, and the corrado realy is heavy to drive, I know comparing to a mk2 without powersteering isn't ideal, but the handling of the two cars is drastically different, the mk2 without powersteering wasn't all that bad to park, but the rado was real heavy on easy simple turns, a three point turn was a work out, at higher speeds it wasn't noticeable. That's with 16x6.5 wheels up front James A friend of mine has a mk2vr from up your neck of the woods, that also dunt have powersteering. It is a bit of effort to manuver incomparison to the mk2vr I had with power steering and my old mk2 valver without, after driving my valver rado without today ied hate to imagine what a vr rado without is like. By doing this you are pushing cold hydraulic fluid around manually with no pump assistance - no wonder it's heavy! That's a lot different than driving a car with a manual rack... I think the PAS on Corrado's is just setup perfect, would never remove it, especially on a G60 or VR! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted January 19, 2010 Yeah, a manual rack is no where near as heavy as a PAS rack with no pump assistance. Disconnected PAS racks seem to turn in notches too, feels very weird! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidwort 0 Posted January 19, 2010 The Americans seem to do this a fair bit, and I really don't understand why :shrug: they rarely have to drive around corners :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted January 19, 2010 They do in California :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erny 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Haha, ied not thought about the p.s rack being heavier anyways cause of the fluid, learn something new everyday, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeithC 0 Posted January 27, 2010 You can't compair a car with the PAS disconnected to a car with a manual rack, the 1 with PAS disconnected is by far heavier dan 1 with a manaul rack. My corrado track car has a manual rack out of a mk2 and is not that heavy, and it has 17" with 205 tyres. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites