krnau 0 Posted August 3, 2010 What about "shaving" some material of the rear hubs (disk brakes) in order to keep 9J rims in the arches? Would that be a butcher's idea, or may it work? Please don't quote me on that :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quicky1980 0 Posted August 3, 2010 there isn't enough material to take off and keep the necessary thread engagement, you might have to consider pulling the arches out slightly or if possible play around with the ET of the wheel?? Rumour has it that the 16v rear beam is narrower than the vr6 but it's not been confirmed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 3, 2010 pulling arches involves too much money :( I don't like pulled arches, so I would weld another arch in order to keep the OE look of it. and that's too much money :? well thanks for your reply :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wormy 0 Posted August 3, 2010 I know some who have shaved 2-3 mm of the discs..! Just be carefull to not take too much so you'll rub on the suspension..! :scratch: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 3, 2010 I know some who have shaved 2-3 mm of the discs..! Just be carefull to not take too much so you'll rub on the suspension..! :scratch: yep, had it in mind :) What I needed to know is if wheel nuts will bolt ok correctly if I shave about 0.5 - 1cm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quicky1980 0 Posted August 3, 2010 I know some who have shaved 2-3 mm of the discs..! Just be carefull to not take too much so you'll rub on the suspension..! :scratch: yep, had it in mind :) What I needed to know is if wheel nuts will bolt ok correctly if I shave about 0.5 - 1cm eeek! I dont know for certain the thickness of the rear discs but I would guesse they are roughly 8mm thick on the mating surfice (can anyone confirm?). If your hoping to take off at least 50mm you may run into issues. General rule for thread engagement is 1.5xD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 3, 2010 I know some who have shaved 2-3 mm of the discs..! Just be carefull to not take too much so you'll rub on the suspension..! :scratch: yep, had it in mind :) What I needed to know is if wheel nuts will bolt ok correctly if I shave about 0.5 - 1cm eeek! I dont know for certain the thickness of the rear discs but I would guesse they are roughly 8mm thick on the mating surfice (can anyone confirm?). If your hoping to take off at least 50mm you may run into issues. General rule for thread engagement is 1.5xD. well I think I may not have explained it correctly due to my English :lol: What I would like to do, is to make the wheels sit closer to the center of the car: I mean, remove some material from the hub so that they fit in the arches. I thought about it as rear hub - disc are a sincle piece. But I don't want to resurface the discs -> only where the rim gets in contact with the hub. sorry I've been working for all day. My brain is on stand-by ATM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbeige 0 Posted August 3, 2010 M15 VW on here had a few mm (5mm IIRC) shaved from her rear discs on her old Blackberry Rado. She was running 9j on the rear. However, she had the rear arches pulled a little too. Very subtle, and allowed a fairly low running without issues Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emu 0 Posted August 3, 2010 Rumour has it that the 16v rear beam is narrower than the vr6 but it's not been confirmed. It's confirmed, etka says that as well, its 20mm difference. Only VR6 is 20mm wider than rest of the Corrado. Had G60 and VR6 in my hands and vr6 was 20mm wider. It's confirmed by my friend as well who plays VW's as far as I can remember and VR6 rear beam is 20mm wider than rest of Corrado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_griff 0 Posted August 4, 2010 why not just fit wheels with a standard offset - they you'll save yourself all this trouble and the car will handle better anyway?!? sorry, not having a go at you - i just don't understand why people want to mess around with putting wider wheels on with stretched tyres etc - it makes the car handle like poo! it may look "scene" but if all the scene people actually pitted their cars against those who were enthusiastic about the mechanical side of things and making them go faster/handle better then there would be only one winner. i don't understand why people want to use their cars to ponce around in - buy a soft-top and some sunglasses if you want to do that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 4, 2010 why not just fit wheels with a standard offset - they you'll save yourself all this trouble and the car will handle better anyway?!? sorry, not having a go at you - i just don't understand why people want to mess around with putting wider wheels on with stretched tyres etc - it makes the car handle like poo! it may look "scene" but if all the scene people actually pitted their cars against those who were enthusiastic about the mechanical side of things and making them go faster/handle better then there would be only one winner. i don't understand why people want to use their cars to ponce around in - buy a soft-top and some sunglasses if you want to do that! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I like brock b1's in 9J for rears, but I think ET15 is too much. And as they don't exist in an ET25 then that's why I want to do this, in order to keep the wheels in the fenders :roll: I'm not trying to achieve any scene points :camp: , however, looking at your member's gallery thread, are your red samcos (or whatever) red coloured due to being enthusiastic about the mechanical side of things ? And my car, thank god, handles really good :grin: :camp: So, that being said, I think you shouldn't judge me for asking about rear hub shaving, as you don't know me enough to say that I have 9J wheels just for scene, etc... but it's a forum and anyone can give their opinion, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_griff 0 Posted August 4, 2010 apologies - i guess i'm a touch grouchy this morning! however.... if you are honestly going to try and argue that your car handles well on 9j wheels..... well, i think you'd better stand by for some flack off pretty much anyone who knows anything about corrados! i don't want to be arsey and turn this into a slanging match, but honestly - why do you feel the need to put 9j wheels on the car other than for the look? bear in mind that they will unquestionably make it handle worse... so, yeah - apologies, as i don't want to slag your car or much less offend you - but i just can't fathom your reasons (or anyones reasons for that matter!) for putting overly wide wheels onto a car that just wasn't designed for them... and for the record - my car came with the red samcos when i bought it. they wouldn't have been my personal choice (black would have been), but i kept them as the longevity benefits of silicone over the OEM rubber are obvious, and that is a mechanical benefit with tangible gains. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 4, 2010 the comment about samcos was only a joke :lol: I didn't say that it handles better with 9J than 6.5 or whatever, I just said that it handles very good. I put 9J obviously as it looks better in my opinion, but I want them to be in the fenders and as I said before, there aren't any brock b1's 9J with ET25 offset... and no probs about your comments, but you made me feel a bit as if I had a car full of vinyl flames and other style-points-parts :lol: :lol: and well obviously I don't have it that way!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIPVW 0 Posted August 4, 2010 :shock: wow really cant believe folk want to grind away metal in order to fit non standard wheels! no offence but this is modding far beyond reality. I love to see modded cars and some of the ideas thrown around but i'm not getting this one at all. :cuckoo: Feel free to shoot me Lol! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 4, 2010 :shock: wow really cant believe folk want to grind away metal in order to fit non standard wheels! no offence but this is modding far beyond reality. I love to see modded cars and some of the ideas thrown around but i'm not getting this one at all. :cuckoo: Feel free to shoot me Lol! why not? A good machine shop will be able to do it correctly :shrug: I'll find out if wheel nuts will be OK, and clearance between wheel and damper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIPVW 0 Posted August 4, 2010 I just feel that they were made by VW the way they are for a good reason. I'm never likely to do anything like this with either of my Corrado's but if i did i'd probably go down the bodywork routine instead but having said that that also gives me nightmares so i'll stick with the best way and thats the way VW intended :grin: Please dont feel i'm getting at you or anyone else for that matter but if you are struggling to do it right because it costs more to do it right then why not wait till you can? am sure it'd look much better too in the long run :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 4, 2010 I just feel that they were made by VW the way they are for a good reason. I'm never likely to do anything like this with either of my Corrado's but if i did i'd probably go down the bodywork routine instead but having said that that also gives me nightmares so i'll stick with the best way and thats the way VW intended :grin: Please dont feel i'm getting at you or anyone else for that matter but if you are struggling to do it right because it costs more to do it right then why not wait till you can? am sure it'd look much better too in the long run :wink: WEll, I really can pay for this, but I don't like paying 600 or more for this, as I may go back to std width rims one day.. and they will look crap then with pulled arches :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIPVW 0 Posted August 4, 2010 They would indeed mate, the sooner this wide wheel fad goes away the better then eh! :lol: good luck with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monzablau16v 0 Posted August 4, 2010 not going to say it is a good idea or it is a bad idea...but would a modification like this be covered by your insurance company? Lowered suspension, wide wheels etc are common things done and are covered by specialist insurance firms. Maybe call them and ask them if "trimmed" brake discs would be? Last thing you want is to be involved in an accident and some inspector to scrutinize your brake discs..resulting in you being liable for costs due to not being covered? i think im getting old... :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIPVW 0 Posted August 4, 2010 not going to say it is a good idea or it is a bad idea...but would a modification like this be covered by your insurance company? Lowered suspension, wide wheels etc are common things done and are covered by specialist insurance firms. Maybe call them and ask them if "trimmed" brake discs would be? Last thing you want is to be involved in an accident and some inspector to scrutinize your brake discs..resulting in you being liable for costs due to not being covered? i think im getting old... :eek: A perfect reason not to :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krnau 0 Posted August 4, 2010 not going to say it is a good idea or it is a bad idea...but would a modification like this be covered by your insurance company? Lowered suspension, wide wheels etc are common things done and are covered by specialist insurance firms. Maybe call them and ask them if "trimmed" brake discs would be? Last thing you want is to be involved in an accident and some inspector to scrutinize your brake discs..resulting in you being liable for costs due to not being covered? i think im getting old... :eek: I could not be covered because of having not-ET35-wheels(which were oe ones) in Spain. Spain is a real crap. so the problem is the same :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites