What do you think of the fto and integra

[Bean 0]

Hi what do you guys think of the FTO mivec and the integra type R. I was just thinking of what cars are avalable for about 5K that might be able to replace a VR!

 

If there is one!!!!!!

:)

cheers

 

Dan

[Jim 2]

Have you seen any of the posts by Scott in the last month or so? He sold his VR and bought an FTO and is apparently very happy with it :)

[Kevin Bacon 5]

The Teg would be my preference but both are good from a handling point of view. Engines are rev happy sewing machine affairs though.

 

There's no way on earth I would chop a Corrado in for either..... but each to our own!

[munkay 0]

I replaced my G60 with an MR2 Turbo and although very different fromt he Corrado it's still a really good/exciting car to drive.

 

You could get a nice one of them for 5K and they are very reliable and super quick. 270Bhp with torque+ to match. Only cost me 30 quid more than my G60 to insure too.

 

Just really really wish I could have kept the Corrado as well - in time though - that 1.8T Corrado for sale at the moment looks like a good choice too :)

[Kevin Bacon 5]

MR2 Turbos are alright, it's got a proper engine!!

[Guest]

bah, FTOs are too common ;)

 

I must see twice as many FTOs as Corrados :shock:

[mambomonkey 0]

Def. go for the integra, although FTO's are nice to drive, the integra has been labelled 'the best handling FWD car ever' - also that VTEC is just an awesome piece of engineering....Would have to agree on the MR2 turbo though,- came really close to buying one of these and had a good lengthy test drive,- they are blistering in a straight line (5.6 to 60???) and a hoot in the dry with a quality turn-in etc....

[Bean 0]

the problem with an MR2 is working on it though!!! Every time you have to do some maint you have to have the engin out!!! Plus where am i supost to put my lunch box!!!!! :lol:

 

I do like them a lot though and they are rear wheel drive which is a big big +

[Jim 2]

270BHP in a car like that must frequently produce brown trowser moments.. I mean I really knew the difference between my 144BHP 16v Corrado and my 207BHP G60 Corrado - I can't imagine what 270BHP in a 2 seater go-kart like the MR2 must be like. Must humiliate a lot of powerful motors!

[jedi-knight83 0]

The Integra gets my thumbs up although it needs pushing hard.

 

My friend has the MR2 turbo (standard is about 245 bhp). its so easy to drive and so easy to drive fast actually!! i really liked it

[Bean 0]

I love the center console that divides the two front seats very nice 8)

 

I would end up leaving a lot of black wavey lines on the roads!

[Bean 0]

I was just havin a look at the MR2's they do a twin turbo as well which looks nice is that the 270bhp ona and the turbo is the 245bhp one?

[Bean 0]

oh i had a look at the posts scott put up[ and his fto looks very nice. 8)

[Kevin Bacon 5]

Twin turbo isn't the norm. The factory turbos are single turbo jobs and around 250 brake.... that is the one to go for. Some aftermarket companies will turbo an MR2 with various stages being available. But I would always go for the factory approved and installed system, personally speaking.

[AdamB 0]

the mr2 turbo was only available as a grey import, it had the same engine as the Celica GT4, that pushed out 220BHP in standard import form. It was a twin inlet ceramic turbo in these cars, and good for an apparent 165mph!! all through the back wheels an a very light car! was a frightening notor in the wet, but an awesome machine in the dry! Still not a VW though 8)

[munkay 0]

You don't get a twin turbo MR2. You only get a twin entry turbo, gets confused a lot.

 

M\rk 2 MR2:

(90-93)Rev 1/Rev2 MR2 Turbo - 225bhp

(93-98)Rev 3/4/5 MR2 Turbo - 245Bhp

 

The majority of the changes were cosmetic but major suspension changes were made from the Rev 1 to the Rev 2 and then again to the Rev 3 to make it less tail happy. Purists say the Rev2 is the best drive and setup but everyone argues this :) (I have a Rev2) :D

 

Both however are conservative estimates and they respond really well to a free flow exhuast and incduction. It is also serisously cheap to mod to 270-280bhp with near 300lb.ft torque via a fuel cut defender/manual boost controller.

 

I run mine at 15psi/1Bar boost which is well documented and tested to be safe and non strenous on the engine with stock cooling.

 

The 0-60 on a Rev 3 (245bhp) is 5.2 secs and they do a 13/14 sec 1/4 mile. Running 270 is usually estimated around max 5secs dead no more. They are alos good for 160mph+ and have a * lot* of power from 100+ Thankfully brakes are also seriously good - the stopping time from 100-0 is better than the vast majority of cars - which is nice.

 

Mine is still limited to 120mph which I will keep on for the mean time as its scary how quick it is to get there :/

 

They are potentially hazardous I guess, especiallly if you haven't driven a rwd before let alone Mid engine rwd. I have a LSD and traction on mine and felt the tail drift a bit today in the wet on a roundabout. It gains traction quickly though thankfully but having traction is a pretty rare option.

 

I think the best thing about them is the ability to put power down so its all very usable. You can fly off the mark and in he dry the level of grip is much much more than you would think with the weight at the back. Just need to be constantly aware of where the weight is when driving fast - its a great laugh though - especially with the roof off in the sun :mrgreen:

 

One surprising fact is that they weigh aroud 1200kgs which is probably a lot heavier than you would think. It was the first thing I became aware of when driving one - its reassuring though and makes them very smooth.

 

I do find I get a lot more people wanting to race though :roll: and have had young kids giving me the thumbs up as they will think it is something way more special than it is :roll: :lol:

 

If you are looking for a car around £5k then def go for a drive in one. They can be quite hard to find but be patient and get a GT model to get a really high spec -leather/aircon - everything basically. They tend to have pretty low mileage though as they get imported from Japan with 50k usually where if you get one that is not to modded or track'd you can pick up a mint car. If possible make sure the timing belt and clutch has been done to save you later although both of these can be done with engine in and are not as bad as many make out.

 

Very very different from the corrado but still great fun - they are involving and loud though so not great if you don't like being switched on as they can feel a bit light front end and thus prone to wandering on the dual carriage way :shock: :lol:

 

You do feel like you are in a proper sports car when driving one tbh, but I guess at the end of the day that is what they are. Not everyones cup of tea but def worth a look.

[Bean 0]

you can pic them up very cheap as well from 2k but it looks like 4k for a good one. One think is for shore what ever i get next i will shop around more this time!!!!

[munkay 0]

Sorry if I turned this into a bit of an mr2 thread :oops: Was just giving an opinion as it seemed appropriate.

 

So back to the mr2 lol :mrgreen:

 

I forgot to mention single best thing about it - the noises they make. From the burble at idle to the induction noise and the turbo spooling up inches away from behind your head :D Then the pops, flames and boost vent on gear changes - scares old women :)

 

And if you don't like the noise they come stock with 2 amps a sub and 8 speaker setup :mrgreen:

 

IMO you get a lot of car for the money :)

[Ice White Socks 0]

I saw a rather cruel comment about the FTO in some buyers guide once- 'Looks like it should chase porsches but in reality keeps up with mondeos'. Made me laugh at the time :D :D

 

Doubt its true tho. I think the FTO looks far nicer then the 'teg, but I accept it doesn't handle half as well

[Ice White Socks 0]

tho the best I have seen yet is about the Audi S3- 'A3 joins the quattro party- driver not invited'- now that probably is true :)

[LicklePaulie 0]

I came to the VR after having an Integra (but I'm talking DC5 not DC2) - see pic. Due to the rarity of the later model though we shared a lot of time in each other's company. The difference between the Japanese and German models is chalk and cheese. In standard form the DC2 is on a par power-wise with the C but is MUCH revvier, lighter, quicker and more responsive in all respects. The vtec takes some getting used to but, once there, is the most pleasurable experience I've had on four wheels. It's actually a bit of an animal and takes a lot more control to drive. I love my VR and enjoy driving it but, if my cashflow had allowed, would NEVER have sold the Honda. BTW you'll be very hard pushed to get hold of even a poor DC2 for 5K - iirc the going rate is 7-9K. And unless you're prepared to pay silly money for the imported GP version, the FTO is not in the same league.

[Bean 0]

Well i went and had a look at an FTO and MR2 Turbo today, both very nice motors but i think it is going to have to be the MR2.

 

It is K-REG 93 with 110K. The guy that owned it last worked for sunseeker and seemed to be a perfectionist (which is good) the turbo has just been done and the cam belt too. it has a full service history and also history from japan ( which i cant read)

He wants £4995 for it. Does that sound good?

[munkay 0]

Is it a Rev 3 or Rev 2? If its a Rev3 then its about right.

 

Rev 3 have the updated rear lights - I actualyl prefer the sqaurer Rev 2 ones - but if the car is stock then it will have more bhp/torque being rev 3. Make sure you check whihc rev it is first as if it is a rev 2 I would be looking to pay around 4k with that sort of mileage.

 

What mods does it have done if any? It's nice to buy one with an exhaust and induction as they are quite expensive - but each to their on. Also is it a GT or GTs? T-Bar? etc...

[Bean 0]

it is a t-bar but i dont know what rev it is i am going to go and test drive it tomorrow!

[munkay 0]

Well keep your head screwed on and make sure the turbo boost gauge goes right up to the very top off the scale. Should have a smooth idle and start to pull from around the high 2k rpm and very suddenly fly off at a rate of knots all the way to 6k+

 

The usual car checks apply - such as listen for knockin, check it doesnt pull to one side hugely, check oil /fluids levels. Oil changes are very important on them and make sure the guy has been careful of this as its one of the best indicators of how he has looked after it. See if he lets it idle after going for a good burn - if if he turns it right off be wary.

 

Have a good read of this tonight: http://www.btinternet.com/~netsurf/mr2t/buyMR2T.html :)

 

Also check the tyres that ae fitted - these are very important to the cars handling and grip - you realyl want to see a good make on the rear and preferably 225 wide. I imagine as it is a TBar it will have either leather, recaros or half suede/leather like mine. Also check for an LSD and traction control - the button for it is on the right just below the steering wheel.