jedi-knight83 0 Posted December 7, 2004 i know some of the toad and clifford alarms offer remote start... but is there a standalone kit that just gives remote start?? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted December 7, 2004 Invalidates insurance though mate ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted December 7, 2004 Invalidates insurance though mate ..... can get round it quite easily, so it doesnt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted December 7, 2004 Get the clifford alarm which doesnt have it as standard, get it added, and just don't mention it to the insurance company. I don't think they'd check for THAT in the event of a theft or breakin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 7, 2004 What's wrong with going out in your paisley dressing gown and Kermit slippers, starting it and then locking the doors with the spare key? That's what I do, but I've got Miss piggy slippers and a terry towelling DG though :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted December 7, 2004 Yeah ok, in most circumstances you would never get found out for any minor discrepancy on your insurance in the event of a claim. Trust me though, you cripple a pedestrian for life and if it's gonna cost your insurance company a fair bit of money, they *will* find an excuse not to pay. Not even that extreme really ....... £x cost of going over an application form/crashed car vs £y cost of a claim on the policy of a few grand. What's gonna work out financially better for them? Sorry - just looking on the dull side really. I know that fitting the remote start will never actually cause you any grief from an insurance point of view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben16v 0 Posted December 7, 2004 kev i take it you haven`t got remote start?? i`ve always been too scared to start the car and lock it with the other key in case i cant open it etc..... i might give it a go tomorrow, i`m off but i usually start at 6am and a warm car would be such a bonus!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 7, 2004 Nope, wouldn't have it either, unless it came from the factory with it. Using the key to open the door is better than entrusting it to flakey old Clifford IMO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted December 8, 2004 What's wrong with going out in your paisley dressing gown and Kermit slippers, starting it and then locking the doors with the spare key? That's what I do, but I've got Miss piggy slippers and a terry towelling DG though :lol: Cos with remote start, that time you spend finding your slippers and dressing gown can be better spent sleeping!! Might only be a min or two, but thats a lot of sleep over a year!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted December 8, 2004 Yeah ok, in most circumstances you would never get found out for any minor discrepancy on your insurance in the event of a claim. Trust me though, you cripple a pedestrian for life and if it's gonna cost your insurance company a fair bit of money, they *will* find an excuse not to pay. Not even that extreme really ....... £x cost of going over an application form/crashed car vs £y cost of a claim on the policy of a few grand. What's gonna work out financially better for them? Sorry - just looking on the dull side really. I know that fitting the remote start will never actually cause you any grief from an insurance point of view. Oh I totally understand mate.. i'm totally honest when it comes to insurance and have (I think!) declared everything with Brentacre as i'd prefer not to be left the chance of not being paid out and possibly prosecuted in the event of an accident. Just felt that, perhaps, remote start you sneak in without declaring - OR - you could have the alarm fitted under someone elses name, and then get them to fit that as well and plead ignorance when it comes to an insurance situation. A mate of mine got a Concept 500 alarm on his Renault and it wasn't till we got into the alarm using the Cliffnet Wizard that we could see what optional extras were installed - if he hadn't had access to that, he wouldn't have known! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h100vw 0 Posted December 8, 2004 I'd it's bad to have your car ticking over from cold anyway. Much better for the car to get in it and drive it off. Not much more than a 'pub feature' in my opinion. It's certainly not environmently friendly and wouldn't do your MPG figures any good. I also heard that it would invalidate the cat 1 status of an alarm. Having never fitted one though I can't be 100%. Gavin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted December 8, 2004 ok thanks for the replies. guess i'll have to put up with being cold for 5 mins in the mornings ta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daves16v 1 Posted December 8, 2004 jedi-knight83, You pay all that money for your S3 and you still have to wait 5 mins before being warm :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted December 8, 2004 i know its scandalous isnt it!!! :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted December 8, 2004 just buy a house with a garage! :lol: 8) No cold morning starts for me, and it actually LOWERS my insurance quotes... 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dilated 0 Posted December 8, 2004 I'm now reaping the benefits of having my intellistart on the car =] Blip the keyfob in the general direction of the window and go out to a toasty warm car. It's great for when i'm running a little late, as it means the oil's up to temp as soon as i jump in the car so i can scream off into the sunrise without fear of damaging my engine. Everyones jealous too. heheh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 8, 2004 As a general query, how does the intellistart know when to shut off the starter motor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted December 8, 2004 Dilated, is yours part of an alarm system then? can yo ueven get separate kits as per my original question? ta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 8, 2004 You mean you trust your car to be where you left it parked without leaving it in gear? Or does the remote-start automatically take it out of gear and waggle the gear-stick left->right to make sure, and then sit with the brakes on till you get in the car...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted December 8, 2004 If that was directed at me, then neither :lol: How does Intellistart know when to stop cranking.....ie. how does it know the engine has fired and is running? Timer? Would be good if the remote start did waggle the stick to check for neutral but unfortunately you have to go through some procedure before you get out and lock the car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted December 8, 2004 You mean you trust your car to be where you left it parked without leaving it in gear? Or does the remote-start automatically take it out of gear and waggle the gear-stick left->right to make sure, and then sit with the brakes on till you get in the car...? huh :| :? dont you have a hand brake in yours then mat? there all the rage now a days.. you should get one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted December 8, 2004 Intellistart ensures that you go through a number of procedures in order to activate it. Simply put, its not possible to leave it in gear or with the handbrake off and set the alarm! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted December 8, 2004 You mean you trust your car to be where you left it parked without leaving it in gear? Or does the remote-start automatically take it out of gear and waggle the gear-stick left->right to make sure, and then sit with the brakes on till you get in the car...? huh :| :? dont you have a hand brake in yours then mat? there all the rage now a days.. you should get one Modern technology such as this hasn't made it onto the VW product line. I park on a hill. The hand brake is rubbish. 2+2 is 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biggerbigneil 0 Posted December 8, 2004 Okay lets not have a fight now.... I don't know if I dreamt this... but I was remember being told you could go to Ian Bannings (Guildford) and get an alarm system whereby you could set a timer as well as the alarm etc to start your car up at a certain time of the day (cold mornings) and let it run with the doors locked and steering locked/Immobolised etc and what have you. Shouldn't be too difficult as a friend of mine had a RX7 with a turbo timer which left the engine running for a certain amount of time and you couldn't open the doors or turn the wheel etc. It would be a system similar too that I would have thought no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolrado 0 Posted December 8, 2004 surely you could fit a couple of micro switches to the shift mech to ensure its in neutral, a couple on top of the gear box and a couple inside on the lever just to be sure if i where to have a remote starter i would probably use an infra red remote so i would have to be able to see the car to start it just in case anything did go wrong. there are about 3 miles of 30 mph roads from my house before i get to the bypass and get to open her up so the engine is usually up to temp when i went to visit my brother in canada i noticed a lot of cars with a large two pole connector on the front, when i asked him what it was he said its for an engine warmer as the temp get quite low out there some people leave the car plugged in and it keeps it nice and warm 8) some use a imersion heater style system with a flexible heater cable that you insert into the radiator and others use a heated water pump that keeps circulating warm coolant around the system 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites