vr6storm 0 Posted June 7, 2003 right guys(n' gals), whats your top ten favourite non VW-group hot hatches of the 80's and 90's then to qualify they have to not make more than 150bhp in std form here's mine..in no order either 1.......fiat strada 130tc abarth 2.......ford escort xr3 3.......ford escort RS 1600i 4.......ford escort RS turbo(series 1) 5.......ford fiesta xr2(mk2) 6.......peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 7.......peugeot 309 GTi 8.......vauxhall astra GT/e(mk1) 9.......nissan sunny GTi (91-95 model) 10.....renault 5 GT turbo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 7, 2003 Wouldn't have minded owning a 205 GTi 1.9, Fiesta RS Turbo, or a Renault 5 GT Turbo... Not really too sure about the 80's/90's hot hatch scene though I am afraid :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Non-vw? Does not compute. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60Jet 1 Posted June 7, 2003 NON-VW CFHWWWT HH GJE UJV BNYT JB afwa gre qTHJEYJr TRIKF CODE ERROR ABORT, RETRY, FAIL? :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2003 Treason, off with his head… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Does the original Clio 16V count (seems to remember it made more than 150brake???) Went for a ride in a mate's in 1991-ish and got scared to death :shock: :shock: :shock: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Does the original Clio 16V count (seems to remember it made more than 150brake???) Went for a ride in a mate's in 1991-ish and got scared to death :shock: :shock: :shock: yeah the original clio 16v counts.........it had 137bhp and the williams 1/2/3 could count too as they had 150bhp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 7, 2003 I remeber my mate had the Renault 19 16v.. that was the first car that really got me into cars! That thing used to be able to move at some serious pace.. 2nd gear seemed to go on forever, and the power through 2nd was nuts. Great car! I can only imagine the Clio 16v was even more crazy.. that power crammed into that little car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Campaign 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Far tooo many Frods in the first person's list.... Seat Ibiza 1.8 (2nd Version) Peugeot 309 GTi Brooklands Edition (I nearly bought one of these, leather everywhere and wooden steering wheel, plus 205 handling). Pug 205GTi Vauxhall Shove-It HSE (or was that 70s?) BMW 2002 Ti (okay, 70s again, but would embarress most RS Turdos even in Auto which is what I used to drive) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Far tooo many Frods in the first person's list.... Seat Ibiza 1.8 (2nd Version) Peugeot 309 GTi Brooklands Edition (I nearly bought one of these, leather everywhere and wooden steering wheel, plus 205 handling). Pug 205GTi Vauxhall Shove-It HSE (or was that 70s?) BMW 2002 Ti (okay, 70s again, but would embarress most RS Turdos even in Auto which is what I used to drive) ah but not all of us seen the light :? ..........i was a total ford man thru and thru til i discovered german motors 8) about 10years ago ps...........seat ibiza's are vw-group so don't qualify :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaiosG60 PWR 0 Posted June 7, 2003 I remember the peugeot 309 brooklands, rare, green and black? My favourite non VW fast hatch is a Lancia delta intergrale evo. They where like rallye's all lhd and had huge arches. I know it had more than 150bhp but thats just unfair! It could be a restricted one for insurance purposes!! :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Sierra xr4i, 150bhp 2.8 v6 and rear wheel drive, great fun. I would love to be able to get one along side the corrado. The C could come out in the decent weather and the xr4i would be out in the rain. :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Sierra xr4i, 150bhp 2.8 v6 and rear wheel drive, great fun. I would love to be able to get one along side the corrado. The C could come out in the decent weather and the xr4i would be out in the rain. :twisted: used to have one prior to me discovering german motors...............and "experienced" the joys of combining 150bhp,rwd,a 22 year-old driver and of course a nice wet round-a-bout :shock: :lol: :oops: :evil: luckily just my pride was dented but joe it doesn't really qualify as its more a Grand-tourer than hot-hatch......my post my rules :wink: :lol: LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Fair enough, I think 150bhp is a conservative estimate for them as well. I would have to say Clio Williams then, as long as its been left standard. Would probably have got a Clio 16v instead my first C if they werent French. :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Fair enough, I think 150bhp is a conservative estimate for them as well. I would have to say Clio Williams then, as long as its been left standard. Would probably have got a Clio 16v instead my first C if they werent French. :lol: just mind tho joe......150bhp was quite a bit for an eighties hot-hatch and was still a decent output for a nineties hot-hatch :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Sierra xr4i, 150bhp 2.8 v6 and rear wheel drive, great fun. I would love to be able to get one along side the corrado. The C could come out in the decent weather and the xr4i would be out in the rain. :twisted: "XR4i" and "wet" don't go together! Even in the dry, mildy enthusiastic driving would result in the tail whipping out! Straight line speed only! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 7, 2003 I have a problem making a list as my favorite hot hatches are all VW group! :lol: The MKI golf GTI was the car that got me into fast cars, then my uncle got a MKII GTi... I've now had 3 MKI GTIs (still got one with a 16V engine that embarasses an awful lot of new VERY expensive cars when it's not in pieces!) 1 late MKII GTI, 1 Corrado 1.8 16V and my current G60... :D I think that the only cars that would make my list other than VAG are: 1) Pug 205 gti 1.9 (has to be the 1.9, the 1.6 was tooooooo slowwwwww....) 2) Pug 309 GTI Brooklands 3) Lotus Sunbeam, although I have a feeling they were 150BHP+ 4) Series1 Escort RS turbo (Phew, didn't use the 'F' word! :lol: ) The problem with all 4 of these is that the build quality sucked... not one of them felt as well built as the VAG offerings... :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted June 7, 2003 i was thinking about the lotus sunbeam,they were one quick little car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veedubcrzy 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Lucky europeans!!!!!!!! I live in the US ant the only escort ford sells is slow and we may have got 1 turbo. Not that I'm complaining about ford (I'd rather drive my old Diesel Rabbit). But you get all the cool cars; Ren. Pug. Lotus, damn. Oh but my fav is my 86 Mazda RX-7, 1.3 rotary, fuel injection, about 145bhp, and REAR WHEEL DRIVE!! (Brodies are fun.) :turn-l: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LowG 0 Posted June 7, 2003 i was born in 80 and dont know much about 80s car but who cares really 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmax 0 Posted June 7, 2003 The Renault 19 16V (circa 1991) was a nice car, friend of mine had one (same colour as my VR6 in fact). Jamie '93 Aqua blue VR6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted June 7, 2003 The best car that came out of the dagenham dustbin factory of the late 80's has got to be the 3 door sierra cossie my mate used to own one 556bhp and that thing went like sh@t off a hot shovel it scared me to death with him behind the wheel!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT 0 Posted June 7, 2003 Not entirely sure a 556 hp cossie fits the bill for a The Ultimate hot hatch of the '90s is without doubt the pug 106 GTI, the sublime handling and revtastic engine just beg for your favourite A or B road blat. These cars are seriously fast and soooo confidence inspiring you feel like a hero every time you drive it, excellent!!! The Ultimate hot hatch - no question!! As for the 80s its got to be the 205 GTI 1.9, throttle respone so sharp it can take your foot off, a fantasticly torquie engine and frightningly responisve handling, if driven properly can still show a clean set of p-zeros to much more powerful opposition!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henny 0 Posted June 8, 2003 SNIP! Oh but my fav is my 86 Mazda RX-7, 1.3 rotary, fuel injection, about 145bhp, and REAR WHEEL DRIVE!! (Brodies are fun.) :turn-l: HOW could I have forgotten the RX-7?!? :roll: :oops: Fantastic car! First car that scared the utter be-jesus outta me when a mate took me out in one... 8) Add that to my list! :D 5 ) Mazda RX7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzyvr6 0 Posted June 8, 2003 Not entirely sure a 556 hp cossie fits the bill for a The Ultimate hot hatch of the '90s is without doubt the pug 106 GTI, the sublime handling and revtastic engine just beg for your favourite A or B road blat. These cars are seriously fast and soooo confidence inspiring you feel like a hero every time you drive it, excellent!!! The Ultimate hot hatch - no question!! As for the 80s its got to be the 205 GTI 1.9, throttle respone so sharp it can take your foot off, a fantasticly torquie engine and frightningly responisve handling, if driven properly can still show a clean set of p-zeros to much more powerful opposition!! but both built with coke cans!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites