Fine wine, Belgian chocs. 1 Posted June 26, 2003 http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/inte ... riaestefan Looks like I've been rumbled boys :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daddycool 0 Posted June 26, 2003 OK.... I'll bite! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr! :wink: Seriously tho' it would be great to compare the cars handling around Bruntingthorpe. I think you would be unpleasantly surprised. I say compare handling because lets face it, BHP wise, our Cally's would blow you lot into the weeds! LOL! Check this out and then tell me what you think: http://www.turbocalibra.co.uk/tv.htm http://www.turbocalibra.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atacam 0 Posted June 26, 2003 See Calibra members can play nicely. There are opinions about both car, and from what I have read and experienced there are niggles and inherent problems with both. At the end of the day You like Yours we like ours. Thats why we have them! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 26, 2003 Indeed... I was wary of this when I saw it posted but you guys seem like a sensible bunch :) I wouldn't expect a Corrado to keep up in a straight line against something like a Calibra Turbo, but the Corrado was never about that... handling is its niche :) *edit* Looking at the Specs, I think the Corrado VR6 would stomp a Calibra V6.. but the Calibra Turbo looks a bit crazy with a 0-60 of 6.4 seconds.. I guess we'd have to be talking to the supercharged VR6 owners to even get close :) And just so you know, I don't want this to turn into an interforum war.. thats definately not the intention of us lot!! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 See Calibra members can play nicely. There are opinions about both car, and from what I have read and experienced there are niggles and inherent problems with both. At the end of the day You like Yours we like ours. Thats why we have them! :D LOL, sounds like we have a challenge boys!! I've no qaulms about that. The Vauxhalls would probably hold together longer than the Corrados, except the 4x4 Turbos when their diffs seize, LOL! My mate's old Turbo 4x4 transmission siezed giving it some welly off a roundabout! Quite a common problem on them but other than that they are solid and very fast. Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 Ooops, I meant to quote Daddycool, doh! Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Each to his own an' all that but surely "Vauxhall" and "Class" in the same sentence??? Delusional Schizophrenics the lot of 'em... :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sc16v 0 Posted June 26, 2003 kevhaywire The Vauxhalls would probably hold together longer than the Corrados, except the 4x4 Turbos when their diffs seize, LOL! youve gotta be kidding matey :lol: , the corrado build quality is way above the calibra build qaulity. Unloved corrado's :( still look could after 15 years unloved calibra's you'll be lucky to find any rear wheel arches (rust) I use the word unloved as any car that is looked after and loved will last. Like they say we like C's they like Cally's pointless all of use liking the same thing :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daddycool 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Each to his own an' all that but surely "Vauxhall" and "Class" in the same sentence??? Delusional Schizophrenics the lot of 'em... :D How dare you! I'll have you know, Calibra's ARE class... Aren't they?.... Yes they are.... See.... told you I would agree!.... No you didn't..... Yes i di................. :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 26, 2003 How dare you! All meant in the best possible taste! To be serious for a mo' (!) - when the Calibra was first released I can remember thinking "wow, looks really good" (or if I were to be really nasty - "wow, how did they make a Cavalier look good?") :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Crazy fool. http://www.clubcalibra.com/section/inte ... IC_ID=7386 Calibra has more class than a corrado, must be on drugs. Back to the original question - not really crazy or on drugs - he just loves his Calibra as much as we love our Corrados? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 youve gotta be kidding matey :lol: , the corrado build quality is way above the calibra build qaulity. Unloved corrado's :( still look could after 15 years unloved calibra's you'll be lucky to find any rear wheel arches (rust) I use the word unloved as any car that is looked after and loved will last. Like they say we like C's they like Cally's pointless all of use liking the same thing :D Corrados are mechanically as tough as any other VW but it's just the crap interior quality (93 on cars)....weak sunroof mechanisms, brittle dashboard components, rattles, easily scratched glass etc and not to mention utterly useless engine mounts! You don't get any of those problems on the Calibra. Don't get me wrong, I love my Corrado to bits and it's all those little foibles that keep me busy, but sometimes I just yearn for things to work on stay in one peice! The 2WD Calibras are no match for the Corrado's deft handling. The 4x4s I'm not so sure about but I remember when I had my MK2 16V, a Calibra turbo in front of me pulled away like I was standing still and shot round a bend at a ridiculous speed. They are under-rated cars. Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bournemouth James 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Indeed... I was wary of this when I saw it posted but you guys seem like a sensible bunch :) I wouldn't expect a Corrado to keep up in a straight line against something like a Calibra Turbo, but the Corrado was never about that... handling is its niche :) *edit* Looking at the Specs, I think the Corrado VR6 would stomp a Calibra V6.. but the Calibra Turbo looks a bit crazy with a 0-60 of 6.4 seconds.. I guess we'd have to be talking to the supercharged VR6 owners to even get close :) And just so you know, I don't want this to turn into an interforum war.. thats definately not the intention of us lot!! :) The standard 0-60 time on a vr6 is 6.3s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Think the 0-60 time of the c is debatable having read old reviews of magazines trying to replicate the time quoted by VW. But i'll go along with it if it means beating the Cally boys :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted June 26, 2003 Indeed... I was wary of this when I saw it posted but you guys seem like a sensible bunch :) I wouldn't expect a Corrado to keep up in a straight line against something like a Calibra Turbo, but the Corrado was never about that... handling is its niche :) *edit* Looking at the Specs, I think the Corrado VR6 would stomp a Calibra V6.. but the Calibra Turbo looks a bit crazy with a 0-60 of 6.4 seconds.. I guess we'd have to be talking to the supercharged VR6 owners to even get close :) And just so you know, I don't want this to turn into an interforum war.. thats definately not the intention of us lot!! :) The standard 0-60 time on a vr6 is 6.3s Odd... Parkers Guide say around 6.8 seconds. I'd honestly be interested to know which was quicker but I suspect the Calibra Turbo would have the edge. You know how easy it is to unleash extra horses from forced induction cars as well... 204BHP as standard.. I bet with a rechip, nice zorst and air filter modifications they can get that up quite nicely! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bournemouth James 0 Posted June 26, 2003 The vw figures say 6.3s Also some magazines have tested to 6.3s, take a look at this page http://www.coruscant.dsl.pipex.com/corr ... rmance.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vr6storm 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Indeed... I was wary of this when I saw it posted but you guys seem like a sensible bunch :) I wouldn't expect a Corrado to keep up in a straight line against something like a Calibra Turbo, but the Corrado was never about that... handling is its niche :) *edit* Looking at the Specs, I think the Corrado VR6 would stomp a Calibra V6.. but the Calibra Turbo looks a bit crazy with a 0-60 of 6.4 seconds.. I guess we'd have to be talking to the supercharged VR6 owners to even get close :) And just so you know, I don't want this to turn into an interforum war.. thats definately not the intention of us lot!! :) The standard 0-60 time on a vr6 is 6.3s well to be honest VW state that the VR6's 0-100kmh(0-62mph)as being 6.9 seconds Autocar magazine tested a VR6 Corrado(29/04/92) the 0-60 time being 6.4 secs whilst EVO magazine tested one as being 6.2 secs as for the calibra 4x4 turbo Autocar tested one (15/07/92) and they managed a 0-60 time of 6.2 secs so really on paper the calibra 4x4 turbo has the edge :( on the road,well it just depends on the driver....remember we are talking 1/10ths of seconds here ...........but one thing is for sure it would be pretty close Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 The difference between 6.9 and 6.2 is barely noticeable in the real world. For arguments sake, let's take the average of the 3 Roddy's figures and that gives us 6.5, which even by today's standards, is still quick. The real important figures are the in gear acceleration times and that is where the VR6 excels. One magazine (can't remember which) quoted one of the VR6's incremental times of being the same as a Porsche 911 (non turbo), so overall, it's a nippy car. Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory 0 Posted June 26, 2003 That is quick. I was going from Top Gear Group Test, Celica 2.0 vs Probe v6 vs Corrado VR6 from 1994 where they quote the c managing 7.3 to 60 and they go on to nock VW's figures!!!! I downloaded it from the CCGB (if im not allowed to quote this will a Mod remove it please) web site on Adobe Acrobat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormseeker 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Didn't some magazine road-tests of the VR6 when it was first introduced in the Corrado struggled to get sub-7 second 0-60 times? edit: D'oh - posting overlap - just read the post above. Must've been Top Gear mag then.... :oops: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Maybe it loosens up after 75,000 miles like people say???????? Lets hope it keeps loosening up cos the figures will soon be 0-60 in 5 secs :lol: :lol: :lol: ! Bring on 150,000 miles! People will be clocking their cars to add milage then :lol: :lol: ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 That is quick. I was going from Top Gear Group Test, Celica 2.0 vs Probe v6 vs Corrado VR6 from 1994 where they quote the c managing 7.3 to 60 and they go on to nock VW's figures!!!! I downloaded it from the CCGB (if im not allowed to quote this will a Mod remove it please) web site on Adobe Acrobat Yep read that too but they did comment that for some reason the particular car they tested was slower than normal. It did win the handling test though. Probably has a cam sensor out, LOL!! Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory 0 Posted June 26, 2003 Great ammunition for my mate who had a Probe tho :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: !! Where they say 'its weight and physical bulk hamper progress' :lol: :lol: :lol: !! Thats an understatement :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted June 26, 2003 My mate had a probe V6, it was jinxed I swear....he woke up one morning with 3 flat tyres, a tree fell on it and then someone drove into it! It was one bland car to drive but was fully loaded. The Cougar is much, much better. Kev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rory 0 Posted June 26, 2003 The probes tyres are enourmous tho! The only good bit. My mate liked the pop-up headlamps :pukeleft: P robe seats with zip cover removal and carpet on the backs. Does this say anything bout the owner? Nuff said :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites