dinkus 10 Posted April 19, 2008 Buy one of these Draper RHCP1 Flexible Hose Clamp Pliers 89793.jpg[/attachment:9a8hg9x3] Mine's a Draper RHCP1 Flexible Hose Clamp Pliers 89793 that I bought on ebay for about £25 and it's worth every single penny. I think there are other branded ones that do exactly the same thing as well. The metal bracket fits on the spring clamps and the wire runs back to a ratchet handle that you can open the clamp with. They come off in a matter of seconds with no swearing or mashed fingers. Bloody fantastic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nemesis360 0 Posted April 19, 2008 These are very good, Ive also get a set of plier sized ones that work really well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted April 19, 2008 just spent ages getting jubliee clips :( had so much greif too oh well, too late now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tandino 0 Posted April 19, 2008 Good idea but whoever invented the spring clips needs their nuts cut off with a rusty shears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted April 19, 2008 Yeah, if you don't have the right tool, they're a complete cnut to get off, but once you do they're easier than trying to get something onto jubilee clips to undo them. The reason manufacturers use them is apparently to eliminate the risk of over-tightening :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 19, 2008 The reason manufacturers use them is apparently to eliminate the risk of over-tightening :) Constant tension :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 19, 2008 I get that just from logging in! :lol: These look a good idea, but I would never keep spring clips to re-use and never ever buy spring clips new so unless I had sadistically volunteered to swap out a few people's coolant clips for jubilee/mikalor items this seems a bit of a waste? Although the constant tension thing does make a lot of sense, and I guess for those wanting piece of mind then this is the tool for them :cheers: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 19, 2008 I get that just from logging in! :lol: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted April 19, 2008 i looked into lots of jubliee clips and phoned a few places up about them, quite a few are advertised with "360 degree equal tension" looking round some very big spec engines i spot jubliee clips. the ones i ended up with were from a marine store so should be up to the job, but its something i worry about, don't want to ruin my samcos :( the other thing is the clamps are pretty expensive from VW and they look a bit crap, like an army green Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted April 19, 2008 the ones i ended up with were from a marine store so should be up to the job Are you running them on a boat then? :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted April 19, 2008 no just the corrado, but if i ever crash into the sea, at least i know the coolant won't leak 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted April 19, 2008 The thing about constant tension is not necessarily constant tension around the pipe, but more to do with expansion/contraction and keeping a constant tension on the pipe. Wouldn't worry too much about it though - if you've got jubilee clips they work too, but this tool makes getting the spring clamps on and off a lot easier :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toad 0 Posted April 19, 2008 I was very impressed with it earlier, and will be buying one, especially after my plier throwing session last weekend :oops: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinkus 10 Posted April 19, 2008 Hehe yeah, as I was watching you swearing at those hose clamps last weekend, I was thinking "I wish I'd brought my hose clamp tool... but I think he'll hit me if I tell him right now" :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted April 20, 2008 The spring clips are cheaper to manufacture than jubilees, weigh less and are easier and quicker to install too (with the correct tool). I think those are the reason they get used - it's all down to production process and cost. Unfortunately there are a pain to remove - especially without the correct tool. Good tool Dink, shame it's Draper - their stuff is really pump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul20v 0 Posted April 20, 2008 The spring clips are cheaper to manufacture than jubilees, weigh less and are easier and quicker to install too (with the correct tool). I think those are the reason they get used - it's all down to production process and cost. Unfortunately there are a pain to remove - especially without the correct tool. Good tool Dink, shame it's Draper - their stuff is really pump. theres nowt wrong with draper if you buy draper expert , the clip tool is great and the pliers you can get are too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yandards 0 Posted April 20, 2008 The spring clips are cheaper to manufacture than jubilees, weigh less and are easier and quicker to install too (with the correct tool). I think those are the reason they get used - it's all down to production process and cost. Unfortunately there are a pain to remove - especially without the correct tool. Good tool Dink, shame it's Draper - their stuff is really pump. theres nowt wrong with draper if you buy draper expert , the clip tool is great and the pliers you can get are too Actually there is a lot wrong with the Draper expert range, I use them at work, the ratchets are bloody awful, things snap far too easily and the air tools are very nasty indeed - so overall I am not impressed. I would get a set of those pliers for home use mind as they wont be put through as much use as the stuff at work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul20v 0 Posted April 20, 2008 The spring clips are cheaper to manufacture than jubilees, weigh less and are easier and quicker to install too (with the correct tool). I think those are the reason they get used - it's all down to production process and cost. Unfortunately there are a pain to remove - especially without the correct tool. Good tool Dink, shame it's Draper - their stuff is really pump. theres nowt wrong with draper if you buy draper expert , the clip tool is great and the pliers you can get are too Actually there is a lot wrong with the Draper expert range, I use them at work, the ratchets are bloody awful, things snap far too easily and the air tools are very nasty indeed - so overall I am not impressed. I would get a set of those pliers for home use mind as they wont be put through as much use as the stuff at work. well air tools i dont use theres i use CP and all my ratchets are britool , do like there vortex sockets and extensions and there torx and spline drives dont really snap any quicker than anyone elses for the money , so i will rephrase not all of there range is naff just 50% of it :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted April 20, 2008 I've never had a problem with the hose clamps VW (and others) use, I just use a pair or water-pump pliers and they work a treat. Even a cheap pair (like a couple of quid) will do the job just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plateletboy 0 Posted April 21, 2008 water pump pliers/mole grips fine.. .........until you find a clip that has been seated facing the wrong or an inconvenient way!! then this tool would be fantastic.... pb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted April 21, 2008 i swear that when putting my car together someone at Karmann was chuckling to themselves about the way they aligned the hose clamps :lol: they couldn't of made my bottom rad one any harder, i nearly resorted to cutting the hose with a knife Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites