ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 On the way to work this morning, came off a roundabout onto dual carriageway in the outside lane, with an '06 plate BMW 320d in the inside lane, roughly neck and neck. The Beemer driver obviously didn't want to be overtaken by a poxy 16 year old car, so accelerated forwards to undertake me and pull out around slower traffic ahead in his lane... What's a self-respecting G60 driver to do? :lol: I floored it too, and we were absolutely neck and neck (well, I was level with his door) for about 250 yards before Mr Beem realised that he was running out of road and slowed, to pull in behind me... Of course, I got the usual 'loser flyby' when I pulled into the inside lane further on :roll: Then I thought I'd look up the spec on a 320d, and it has 250lb-ft of torque! :shock: I can only assume that his limited revs forced him to make a gear change whereas I sat in glorious 3rd all the way - I can't be running that kind of torque... can I? :nuts: :grin: :clap: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 20, 2008 I can't be running that kind of torque... can I? :nuts: :grin: :clap: :D no. :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 I can't be running that kind of torque... can I? :nuts: :grin: :clap: :D no. :lol: That's what I figured :D Must've taken him by surprise, or maybe he wasn't sure which pedal was the accelerator... :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Bowen 1 Posted June 20, 2008 diesels torque is overated imo, i think a petrol could be just as impressive if it were geared in the same way etc petrol FTW 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 diesels torque is overated imo, i think a petrol could be just as impressive if it were geared in the same way etc petrol FTW 8) :salute: ditto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 20, 2008 BMW 320d also weighs about 1.6 tonnes. Your G60 weighs 1.1 tonnes. He NEEDS an extra 40% shove just to accelerate at the same rate as you. It's nowt to do with gearing .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 BMW 320d also weighs about 1.6 tonnes. Your G60 weighs 1.1 tonnes. He NEEDS an extra 40% shove just to accelerate at the same rate as you. It's nowt to do with gearing .. Didn't realise there was that much weight difference! Lightweight FTW then :salute: That would make my torque around 180 lb-ft, much more realistic! Ah, GCSE Physics coming back to me now... F=ma and all that :grin: :dorky: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr_mat 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Plus he will have higher gear ratios than you, so if you were both in the same gear he'd have less mechanical advantage .. could go either way, but it's not as simple as lbft translating directly to metres per second per second.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 Plus he will have higher gear ratios than you, so if you were both in the same gear he'd have less mechanical advantage .. could go either way, but it's not as simple as lbft translating directly to metres per second per second.. Good point too. So what kind of power to weight ratio would you expect to find in modern saloons? I reckon my G has a PWR of 188PS/1,100kg = 171PS/ton (metric) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 dr_mat got there before I got even get near, bro! new Beems are h e a v y, and your car prob tops out at 1.4 tons wet weight with you and your leathers in. weight,gearing, noob driver, all adds up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 your car prob tops out at 1.4 tons wet weight with you and your leathers in. That's leather seats, folks, I don't do fetish driving :| *cue Toad* :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 liam.JPG[/attachment:3t8hnp5p] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 liam.JPG[/attachment:2ajtklw3] You luuuuurve that song :luvlove: :cuckoo: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicriot13 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Someone has to like that song I suppose.... I think he should stay on the other side of the camera though. Going back on topic G60s are just awesome. Had you not noticed before? That's enough explanation for me. S*d the physics (no offence Monkey). :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 :lol: You wouldn't be the first to s*d the physics my friend. I mean, if you can't see it, it doesn't affect anything does it? :nuts: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicriot13 0 Posted June 20, 2008 :lol: You wouldn't be the first to s*d the physics my friend. I mean, if you can't see it, it doesn't affect anything does it? :nuts: That and I don't understand it! :scratch: :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Just don't let fatties ride in yours. That's my first tip :salute: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 I do enjoy having it as my testbed for thermo ideas, that's a good thing. There's no point doing it on my 16v at the moment as it's so slow and gutless. Good for pottering though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bristolbaron 10 Posted June 20, 2008 im driving a 320d coupe at the moment, its not very quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 im driving a 320d coupe at the moment, its not very quick. Way to burst my bubble dude! :sad: :lol: Oh, well, will have to find another yardstick car that I can be happy to equal :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 20, 2008 hunt type R's 8) edit: oops don't you own one of those. :ignore: :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 hunt type R's 8) edit: oops don't you own one of those. :ignore: :D :lol: No, the other, 'practical' car is a CR-V... Not quite a Type R :wink: :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boost monkey 0 Posted June 20, 2008 I keep mentioning Jun cams and mugen orders from Japan, but I don't think he's getting the hint Rob! :shrug: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtytorque 0 Posted June 20, 2008 He may well have to if he is going to spend all his timing racing anything that moves on the road. :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProdigalSon 1 Posted June 20, 2008 Like I said before, I can have a blast in the G and still get over 30mpg, I'm lucky to get over 22mpg from the Honda - stupid heavy slush-boxed aircon wagon! :bad-words: It is comfy and good for haulage though... :camp: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites