BlueVR6 0 Posted April 20, 2004 Hi I went round a roundabout at the weekend not to fast but there was a bit of surface water on the road and the back end flipped out. Is this normal in a C as in front wheel drive cars I would have expected under steer not over steer? Could this be a problem, like camber set up or something else? Shouldn’t be the rear bushes as they were just changed out. Is there only one set of bushes in the rear of a C? Ps is camber different to the tracking? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted April 20, 2004 check the tyre pressures the rear may have too much air in comparison to the front Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted April 20, 2004 hello, you shouldnt have got the back out that easily, unless there was oil / diesel etc... handling is generally pretty good when using half decent tyres. infact i was drving hard last night and realised i have never actually had the C step out on me!!!! you cannot adjust tracking or camber on the rear as far as i know...may be worth checking the tyres (are they worn etc???). how does it feel in the dry?? my bet is just a oil patch HTH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 20, 2004 My Corrado's handling was awful until I had the suspension fitted, felt like the back was going out round every corner... Not sure if it due to knackered shocks or just the standard right height... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted April 20, 2004 you guys must just drive harder than me :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted April 20, 2004 u got toyos?????? if not u need some :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supercharged 2 Posted April 20, 2004 u got toyos?????? if not u need some If you talking about the T1S's I don't like them at all, there grippy in the dry but wear way too quickly and useless in the wet... Yoko A539's for me 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiAsAKite 0 Posted April 20, 2004 If I power it round a bend in the VR there is some noticeable understeer (particularly when working in conjunction with torque steer :shock: ).. and if I lift off on the corner the front noticeable shifts/jumps inwards... however I am pretty sure this is just the car 'losing' all its understeer, rather than the back stepping out per se... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR6 0 Posted April 20, 2004 Brake compensator valve? Depends if you were on the power or not really..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueVR6 0 Posted April 20, 2004 I was just taking it fairly easy not on the power going round the roundabout, but the brake compensator has just been changed out aswell. Ive still got winter tyres on from the previous owner ( still got plenty tread left though) but im about to fit goodyear F1's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiAsAKite 0 Posted April 20, 2004 Somethings wrong then... the only thing I can think of (apart from suspension geometry/brake balancer) is whether you had overpressured tyres at the rear and under pressure at the front... Remember the front tyres run at a higher pressure than the back (38 vs 34 I think but may be wrong..) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andycowuk 0 Posted April 20, 2004 the back end on mine is REALLY bad in the wet, there are at least two good reasons for this! I have crappy back tyres....Falkins, vs A539s on the front.[/*:m:e53e1] compared to the front springs, the back ones are reletively hard.....so the front digs in, but the back steps out. I could address this in a few ways A) get softer rear springs B) get harder front springs c) get better front ARB[/*:m:e53e1] One semi useless piece of info worth noting, i am certainly guilty of it too.....is that if you are loosing the back end in the wet...its because you are slowing down on the corner - you should ideally be off the brakes before you turn in, and back on the power as soon as the car has turned in.......not always as easy as that tho! what condition are your shocks, tyres, bushes and bearings in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedi-knight83 0 Posted April 20, 2004 If you talking about the T1S's I don't like them at all, there grippy in the dry but wear way too quickly and useless in the wet... Yoko A539's for me actually the toyos are really good in the wet and im suprised you think the 539 wears slower??? from experience the 539 wears the sae if not quicker i use michelin pilot exalto. fantastic wet and dry and wears very slow!!! bout £80 per corner BlueVR6, is this the only time it has happened??? it could still be an oily patch!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andycowuk 0 Posted April 20, 2004 bout £80 per corner one word.....COSTCO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kongo127 0 Posted April 21, 2004 u got toyos?????? if not u need some If you talking about the T1S's I don't like them at all, there grippy in the dry but wear way too quickly and useless in the wet... Yoko A539's for me 8) I´ve got Yoko A539 too! Don´t really like them at all... :wink: Next tires would be GoodYear Eagle F1! :) Now those are 5 stars! :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ad's 16v 0 Posted April 21, 2004 Toyo T1s for me 8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted April 21, 2004 Mine kicks the ar5e end out on wet roundabouts to, but only if I lift off the gas. I put it down to a cheap tyre on the rear N/S corner. I'll see how it is with my Michelin's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiAsAKite 0 Posted April 21, 2004 F1's on the front have given me no problems thus far.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furkz 0 Posted April 21, 2004 Toyos T1-s kick ass compared to all the others,,,exalto may last longer though :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim 2 Posted April 21, 2004 F1's all round are tight. Not really given the car a LOT of throwing around in the wet, but the grip has been very impressive when i've needed it. I wasn't keen on the T1-S's - they were only a few months old on my Paxo but only mild braking caused them to lockup in the wet. Not having ABS didn't help but they were just not too impressive in my opinion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 21, 2004 bout £80 per corner one word.....COSTCO second word 'Oak Tyres', trade price for ALL tyres :wink: (e.g. 215/40/16 Marshall tyres £42 each :D ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andycowuk 0 Posted April 21, 2004 bout £80 per corner one word.....COSTCO second word 'Oak Tyres', trade price for ALL tyres :wink: (e.g. 215/40/16 Marshall tyres £42 each :D ) Marshall??? Who? R they actually any good.......i know a guy with a mk4 gti that says that the Nankangs he has are one of the best tyres he has ever had......i wont be taking his word for it! IIRC costco sell pilot exaltos 195/50/15 for £53 fitted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 0 Posted April 22, 2004 Ive had similar probs with my corrado it seemed like every corner in the wet the backend was moving, it was handling like crap, my mk2 gti16v was 10 times better, ive managed to get a full new set of suspension, and im going to replace the tyres, but the back 2 are Yoko's so i dont understand it, i thought these were good, can anyone recommend a good set of tyres that arnt rediculously priced, and recommend i change anything else whilst getting the suspension fitted and tyres changes, it would be much appreciated so i dont have to start changing things after ive got the suspension and tyres fitted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Bacon 5 Posted April 22, 2004 Never had any such issues in mine. Sticks to the road like glue, in all weather conditions. If your C is "10 times worse" than your old Golf, you've got serious problems. Main problems are:- Knackered bushes Shite suspension Shite tyres K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott 0 Posted April 22, 2004 Yeah I agree - suspension or tyres.... I'm running Yokohama AVS Sport all round..... the suspension lets go before the tyres do.... 8) Awesome tyres and wear rate is low too - wet weather grip is miles better than old Dunlop Sports I had... £54 per corner :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
