Clutch master cylinder for VR6

[Haarkon 10]

Does anyone know where i might be able to get a clutch master cylinder for a VR6 Storm, its the one with the ball end not the loop and has the inlet pipe pointed directly up and the outlet at 45° from that, looking from the rear.

 

I have tried two VW specialist garages and a VW specialist parts shop and non have been able to source one.

 

Failing finding a new replacement would anyone know of a company which reconditions old master cylinders.

 

Appreciate any help on this.

 

Thanks

[Jim 2]

Moving to Suppliers Forum..

[Jim Bowen 1]

Can't remember who on here went through this recently.

 

I want to change mine and have been told there is a different part to fit nowadays. Which also means changing a couple of other parts. Including the actual pedal.

[dragon green 5]

This company will recondition it

http://www.pastparts.co.uk/

They will bore it out and line it with a stainless steel tube

Or buy a newer clutch pedal(available from classic parts)

And two little clips,

If your interested in going this route,I'll post the part numbers,if it's my money,I'd re-con it

They did my ABS mastercylinder

[Haarkon 10]

Thanks for the replies

I think i'd rather go the recon route so i'll give pastparts ago

 

Thanks again, appreciate it

[steveo29 0]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/KUPPLUNGSGEBERZYLINDER-KUPPLUNGSZYLINDER-GEBERZYLINDER-KUPPLUNG-GEBER-VW-/321544869195?pt=DE_Autoteile&fits=Model%3ACorrado&hash=item4add91554b

 

plenty on ebay.de search "corrado Geberzylinder"

[Jim Bowen 1]

This company will recondition it

http://www.pastparts.co.uk/

They will bore it out and line it with a stainless steel tube

Or buy a newer clutch pedal(available from classic parts)

And two little clips,

If your interested in going this route,I'll post the part numbers,if it's my money,I'd re-con it

They did my ABS mastercylinder

 

MIght send them mine to do while it out :)

[Jim Bowen 1]

This company will recondition it

http://www.pastparts.co.uk/

They will bore it out and line it with a stainless steel tube

Or buy a newer clutch pedal(available from classic parts)

And two little clips,

If your interested in going this route,I'll post the part numbers,if it's my money,I'd re-con it

They did my ABS mastercylinder

 

Just rang these people, at first they said they don't do anything with ABS, which confused me, he said someone had rung about it recently.

 

After i explained it he said they could do it and would be £80-100. Plus i have to post it to them. So expecting it to be at least £100.

 

New one from VW is £176.40

 

Am not sure which to go with :lol:

[Dox 23]

http://catalogue.brake-eng.com/

 

They list all hydraulics, whether they stock them is a different matter

 

http://www.brakesint.co.uk/bremtech_hydraulics.html

Edited December 8, 2014 by Dox

[Jim Bowen 1]

Just looking around online and keep finding part no: 6Q0721388C Its for quite a list of cars, audi TT, Beetle, Jetta and looks just like the corrado one.

 

 

Is there any reason i couldn't use one of these? Can get a decent sachs one for about £50

[seanl82 23]

ECP list a Pagid one for VR6 for around £50 too. I couldn't say if its 100% correct, but likely if its the same for a number of models........

[Jim Bowen 1]

Is that brake one?

 

There is a pagid clutch one for £76, but pic looks wrong, just trying to check with them

[seanl82 23]

Yeah your right sorry!

[Jim Bowen 1]

Quite tempted to try the audi one. Going to compare them a bit more tomorrow.

[AngusL 10]

Hi Guys,

 

A bit late on this but it doesn't seem to be resolved as yet...

 

One of the first things I bought for my VR6 was this clutch master cylinder (copy and paste into your url as its not treating this as a hyperlink) :- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-MASTER-CYLINDER-VW-CORRADO-2-0-2-9-PASSAT-35I-1-6-2-9-/381035761721?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item58b7805039

 

I have not fitted it yet but I know there are 3 subtle minor differences like the thick braided return pipe is pointing up at 45 degrees (no issue at all) and the high pressure pipe points straight out the back as opposed to up at what looks like a 45 degree angle. The other issue is the lack of thread to bolt it back into place - New bolts with nuts on the back would fix this. The Bentley manual shows nuts on the end of the USA LHD version - again no issue.

I have got pics of the original in situ both inside at the pedal and outside where the pipes leave the unit. It looks like a minor task of carefully rotating the outlet high pressure pipe to match the new outlet. (I know - famous last words :-)) There looks to be a few cm to be gained by pulling the high pressure clutch pipe a little towards the master cylinder end to get more pipe length to allow me to rotate the high pressure outlet pipe to fit.

 

So the question is - Am I missing something here because this is new and only £30.25 delivered ?

 

It even came with the plastic clip that the ball end connects to the pedal with - this bit looks exactly the same as fitted into my vR6.

 

Do you think I'm making extra work for myself?

[Jim Bowen 1]

Just to update what i ended up doing.

 

I got my original refurbished by this company http://www.pastparts.co.uk/ Was very impressed with the speed of the service and the part came back looking like new.

 

 

and fitted

 

Did cost £100 though, but new one was over £170

[dragon green 5]

That looks good Jim

[AngusL 10]

A quick update.

I decided to fit the clutch master cylinder as detailed in my post above. It worked. Took a little over 45 mins but it's in and it went back in easier than the the old one came out. After bleeding the clutch now returns to its normal correct position where before the pedal was frequently sticking half way up. The slave cylinder is new and had been changed just before I got the car. Refer to my eBay link shown above. You do have to rotate the high pressure pipe but it's soft and easy to rotate. Make sure you get it pointing straight into the socket as the new cylinder body is aluminium - initially tighten it by hand So there is minimal risk of cross threading it. I started to tighten the high pressure pipe by hand before doing up the two main bolts so that the cylinder could move to match the high pressure pipe threads. The high pressure pipe was hand tightened to at least half it's thread easily The inlet thicker pipe pushes on easily.

All things considered its an easy cheap replacement and the car does not need to be off the road for any length of time. I clamped off the supply rubber hose from the brake fluid reservoir I used a one way single person bleed valve. I did not have to remove the brake servo but I did use pan head bolts so an Allen key needs to be inserted to tighten up the nuts on the inside.

 

I hope this helps someone It's not a hard task. Yours does look good Jim but I think new components and no downtime and a 30 pounds price tag I'm fairly happy with that. Getting the old ball end out of the pedal assembly now that is a real fiddly task. Look at the new one that comes with the cylinder to understand how it comes out. Please note mine is a 1995 Vr6 which does not have the loop connector to the pedal it has the ball end as per Jim's pic above.

[coullstar 0]

Just wondering if the current situation is still best to get the master cylinder refurbed by Pastparts?

 

Im going new clutch so will fit slave and new master as well or refurb if that's better.

[Jim Bowen 1]

I have an update.

 

My reconditioned one popped today and is dripping fluid out onto my foot. Only done about 3000miles with it.

 

The fluid coming out is really rusty. Seems fine in the reservoir.

[Jim Bowen 1]

A quick update.

I decided to fit the clutch master cylinder as detailed in my post above. It worked. Took a little over 45 mins but it's in and it went back in easier than the the old one came out. After bleeding the clutch now returns to its normal correct position where before the pedal was frequently sticking half way up. The slave cylinder is new and had been changed just before I got the car. Refer to my eBay link shown above. You do have to rotate the high pressure pipe but it's soft and easy to rotate. Make sure you get it pointing straight into the socket as the new cylinder body is aluminium - initially tighten it by hand So there is minimal risk of cross threading it. I started to tighten the high pressure pipe by hand before doing up the two main bolts so that the cylinder could move to match the high pressure pipe threads. The high pressure pipe was hand tightened to at least half it's thread easily The inlet thicker pipe pushes on easily.

All things considered its an easy cheap replacement and the car does not need to be off the road for any length of time. I clamped off the supply rubber hose from the brake fluid reservoir I used a one way single person bleed valve. I did not have to remove the brake servo but I did use pan head bolts so an Allen key needs to be inserted to tighten up the nuts on the inside.

 

I hope this helps someone It's not a hard task. Yours does look good Jim but I think new components and no downtime and a 30 pounds price tag I'm fairly happy with that. Getting the old ball end out of the pedal assembly now that is a real fiddly task. Look at the new one that comes with the cylinder to understand how it comes out. Please note mine is a 1995 Vr6 which does not have the loop connector to the pedal it has the ball end as per Jim's pic above.

 

I will try one of these now. Thanks for the info. Very helpful.

[Jim Bowen 1]

Turned up today, i got a TRW one, was about £60 and came from France, am hoping it works, can't see why it wouldn't

 

 

[Geeba 0]

I'm about to start on an auto to manual conversion so will be needing these parts... years ago we just used to replace the seals in master cylinders... is this not possible with these ones?

[Dox 23]

I have an update.

 

My reconditioned one popped today and is dripping fluid out onto my foot. Only done about 3000miles with it.

 

The fluid coming out is really rusty. Seems fine in the reservoir.

 

Do you spend your whole life walking under ladders? If it wasn't for bad luck you'd have no luck at all!

[Jim Bowen 1]

i know, its amazing.

 

I really given up hope with using other people, things only seem to go right if i do everything myself.