De-rusting and Detailing Paintwork

[VW_OwneR_85 2]

a word of warning, all rust must be sanded/ground out otherwise your just saving time , your probably end up with areas that once rust has been sanded out leave tiny pin hole specs of rust that you cant touch, these also need to go! , you can use a small drill bit on this as to not thin the surrounding metal to much, once your metal is clean and as rust free as you can get it, then seal it with an automotive 2k epoxy primer, you can either spray it or roll it or brush it you will need paint mixing cups to get the mixing ratios correct, when it drys after 24hrs you can sand it all flat and work off of that! your also allowed to put body filler on top of epoxy rather then to bare metal for its ability to protect the metal from corrosion, this is a water proof direct to metal primer unlike other primers which are pourus and let moisture seep in, rust converters etc etc dont actually stop the rust so make sure its all gone!!

[Wayne2015 10]

a word of warning, all rust must be sanded/ground out otherwise your just saving time , your probably end up with areas that once rust has been sanded out leave tiny pin hole specs of rust that you cant touch, these also need to go! , you can use a small drill bit on this as to not thin the surrounding metal to much, once your metal is clean and as rust free as you can get it, then seal it with an automotive 2k epoxy primer, you can either spray it or roll it or brush it you will need paint mixing cups to get the mixing ratios correct, when it drys after 24hrs you can sand it all flat and work off of that! your also allowed to put body filler on top of epoxy rather then to bare metal for its ability to protect the metal from corrosion, this is a water proof direct to metal primer unlike other primers which are pourus and let moisture seep in, rust converters etc etc dont actually stop the rust so make sure its all gone!!

 

Cheers bud! :D

 

Exactly what I wanted to hear from some one! :thumb right:

 

I am determined to rid it of rust - proper!

Epoxy primer AND dremel it is!

[Chuggs1 10]

What's high build?

 

Seller sold me car as CANDY WHITE - not sure if OEM?

 

So much bad TouchUp everywhere :(

 

Plan was to take to a good body shop I know.

But now can't justify cost - so looking at doing the worse bits myself...

Should have the paint colour code in the boot can't remember where perhaps someone can tell you exactly

[delfinis38 1]

Should have the paint colour code in the boot can't remember where perhaps someone can tell you exactly

 

LB9A candy white 1993 onwards

 

Early cars where alpine white. L90E.

 

Sticker in boot unless you have had a shunt... Or in your log book

...

 

Think there also maybe a marking under wing.

Edited March 31, 2015 by delfinis38

[Chuggs1 10]

[Wayne2015 10]

Thanks guys :thumb right:

 

[stuarttaylor37 13]

If you are unsure of the true colour of your car take off your petrol flap and take it to a specialist motor paint supplier, they will then match it exactly and mix some up for you.

I learnt the hard way when I bought paint matched to the code in the boot and sprayed part of a wing and a door to then find the paint didnt match. Turns out the car had had a cheap respray in a later VW colour

[Wayne2015 10]

LB9A candy white 1993 onwards

 

Early cars where alpine white. L90E.

 

Sticker in boot unless you have had a shunt... Or in your log book

...

 

Think there also maybe a marking under wing.

 

Thanks again guys

 

Candy white deffo as found this sticker in service book LB9A :thumb right:

 

[Wayne2015 10]

If you are unsure of the true colour of your car take off your petrol flap and take it to a specialist motor paint supplier, they will then match it exactly and mix some up for you.

I learnt the hard way when I bought paint matched to the code in the boot and sprayed part of a wing and a door to then find the paint didnt match. Turns out the car had had a cheap respray in a later VW colour

 

Good idea!

But not from my petrol flap - as i got this :eek:

 

 

:lol:

[Wayne2015 10]

This ok?

 

Much MORE than what i paid at Wilkinson :eek:

 

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221133699948?nav=SEARCH

 

[seanl82 23]

Wayne, ford candy white is not the same as vw candy white. Your best bet is to get an aerosol from vw. It's not the cheapest but it'll be the best match possible. It comes with lacquer too.

[Wayne2015 10]

Wayne, ford candy white is not the same as vw candy white. Your best bet is to get an aerosol from vw. It's not the cheapest but it'll be the best match possible. It comes with lacquer too.

 

Oh :(

The eBay ad does quote LB9A.

 

 

OK - will ring VW for price.

 

Wouldn't buying primer/topcoat/lacquer from same manufacturer better?

Which primer u recommend (or epoxy primer will do)?

[seanl82 23]

Etch primer if you're doing bare metal as it will adhere better. It won't make any difference if you're just touching stuff up. As long as you key it properly it'll be fine. The stuff from VW comes in a twin pack with base coat and lacquer. Like I said not the cheapest (around £15 last time I bought it) for 150ml each tin.

 

Just looked properly at the kit you put up, sorry it may be VW correct code, I just saw ford first!

 

I've bought 3 times from Paints4U. First 2 were very good matches, Dragon Green and DBP, but the Classic Green I bought wasn't very good. White should be ok though.

Edited March 31, 2015 by seanl82

[Wayne2015 10]

Etch primer if you're doing bare metal as it will adhere better. It won't make any difference if you're just touching stuff up. As long as you key it properly it'll be fine. The stuff from VW comes in a twin pack with base coat and lacquer. Like I said not the cheapest (around £15 last time I bought it) for 150ml each tin.

 

Just looked properly at the kit you put up, sorry it may be VW correct code, I just saw ford first!

 

I've bought 3 times from Paints4U. First 2 were very good matches, Dragon Green and DBP, but the Classic Green I bought wasn't very good. White should be ok though.

 

Thanks Sean! :thumb right:

[carrots 1]

You will get the paint off ebay,they only mix standard shade tho.there is most prob a few shades of candy white.

[Wayne2015 10]

You will get the paint off ebay,they only mix standard shade tho.there is most prob a few shades of candy white.

 

As long as they quote my VW code LB9A then should be OK, right?

[Wayne2015 10]

Decided!

 

1st test area s:

 

1. Battery tray + airbox tray

- Wire brush

- BH Surfex HD (degreaser)

- BH Deox gel (derust)

- epoxy mastic (rustproof)

 

2. Rear spoiler boot area

- Dremel/sandpaper (derust)

- BH Deox (derust)

- Epoxy Mastic (rustproof)

- Primer

- Candy White LB9A

- Lacquer

[VW_OwneR_85 2]

if your using aerosols then use this on top of your colour http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HB-Body-Professional-2K-Clear-Coat-Lacquer-400ml-Clearcoat-2x-Aerosol-Car-Laquer-/111365262070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19ede30af6 along with this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gerson-2K-Disposable-Paint-Spray-Respirator-Face-Mask-NOT-AIR-FED-MASK-CAR-PAINT-/350690393436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51a6c6bd5c

[Wayne2015 10]

if your using aerosols then use this on top of your colour http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HB-Body-Professional-2K-Clear-Coat-Lacquer-400ml-Clearcoat-2x-Aerosol-Car-Laquer-/111365262070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19ede30af6 along with this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gerson-2K-Disposable-Paint-Spray-Respirator-Face-Mask-NOT-AIR-FED-MASK-CAR-PAINT-/350690393436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51a6c6bd5c

 

How much???!!! :eek: :shocked!:

 

Thanks bud - but for now I ll stick with the cheaper options as just experimenting for now - but noted for future investment! :thumb right:

[VW_OwneR_85 2]

How much???!!! :eek: :shocked!:

that price is for two canns , just by the one but fair enough, its like £11 ? really not bad considering your have a decent hard/glossy clear, FYI the normal spray can lacquer/clear isnt any good, its a completely different product to what the bodyshops use ,... with that stuff above you will have hardness and longevity and the right gloss.

[Jim Bowen 1]

Am buying some of that then.

[Wayne2015 10]

that price is for two canns , just by the one but fair enough, its like £11 ? really not bad considering your have a decent hard/glossy clear, FYI the normal spray can lacquer/clear isnt any good, its a completely different product to what the bodyshops use ,... with that stuff above you will have hardness and longevity and the right gloss.

 

I think I stick with the eBay one coz its a complete kit

 

But once I am confident and want a better investment - deffo take up your recommendation! :thumb right:

 

 

Just that I no confident in much.

A DIY disaster.

And everything always go wrong.

 

So for paint job - I take cheaper / easier option for now.

My C paint job is bad patches everywhere - wouldn't harm another bad patch :eek:

 

 

But if say I start spraying the whole sunroof - then maybe pay more ...

 

Does that sound OK?

Or mad?

[Wayne2015 10]

Am buying some of that then.

 

U are?

Well done!