Keyo 47 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Dox said: The fan you want to use? The Hella one I have chap is the same as the last part number with L 450/250/80 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Here is the spec of the Hella fan. This is Hella catalogue for Corrado- as you will see looks like they have ended pretty much their part manufacturing for the rado, they have stopped making the fan I purchased- have also noticed they have stopped making the side indictors so worth grabbing some spares of the last ones on ebay. Fan https://web.tecalliance.net/hella/en/parts/2/8EW%20009%20144-541/detail?targetType=cars&targetId=1755&typeNumber=1755&groups=508#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars;mandator:hella/assem:VW%20CORRADO%20(53I)%202.9%20VR6;targetType:cars;mandator:hella;targetId:1755;typeNumber:1755/lnkparts:Radiator%20Fan;targetType:cars;mandator:hella;assemblyGroupId:100337;targetId:1755;typeNumber:1755;groups:508;brands:2;pf:2;page:0/detail:8EW%20009%20144-541;brandId:2;articleNo:8EW%2520009%2520144-541;mandator:hella;targetType:cars;targetId:1755;typeNumber:1755;groups:508 Catalogue https://web.tecalliance.net/hella/en/parts/cars/assemblies?targetId=1755&typeNumber=1755#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars;mandator:hella/assem:VW%20CORRADO%20(53I)%202.9%20VR6;targetType:cars;mandator:hella;targetId:1755;typeNumber:1755 Edited January 18, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted January 18, 2021 So 450, 250, 80 are Watts, I’d assumed incorrectly they were RPMs. do you have a multi meter? can you measure resistance of fast and slow speed on the fan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Dox said: So 450, 250, 80 are Watts, I’d assumed incorrectly they were RPMs. do you have a multi meter? can you measure resistance of fast and slow speed on the fan? Im afraid not Dox. What is your conclusion is the fan a stage three and if so could it possibly work on three stages with only three plug pins compared to a stock four pin rado fan motor ? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted January 19, 2021 Unless there's a earth connection elsewhere on the fan its a two speed, you could wire it with an external resistor to make it 3, but you'd need to know fan speeds then make a decision whether to make an extra slow speed or make a speed between the 2 existing ones then fit an appropriate sized resistor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dox said: Unless there's a earth connection elsewhere on the fan its a two speed, you could wire it with an external resistor to make it 3, but you'd need to know fan speeds then make a decision whether to make an extra slow speed or make a speed between the 2 existing ones then fit an appropriate sized resistor. Thanks Dox that is beyond my electrical know how which is limited to say the least. Edited January 19, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) If have looked into fan loom in regards to very late fan motor ending with L and have also emailed classics to ask is the fan motor a three or four pin. The looms were superseded but only on chassis P and R so in other words there was now update in loom in regards to chassis S 600 - this leads me to think the Fan unit ending with L has four pins and only difference from J is top output of 450. If it does have three pins then it might have a different fan module etc etc. 536 971 281 E wiring harness for electric fan F >> 50-P-020 000 rhd 1 (1) 536 971 281 S wiring harness for electric fan F 50-R-000 001>> rhd Edited January 19, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 19, 2021 Looking a the fan unit that also changed same as loom on P and R no change over on Chassis S 6000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 19, 2021 Totally recommend one of these beauties - chuffed with the quality. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Corrado-Keyring/263959919943?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 19, 2021 Just spoke to Vince and Im going down a week this Saturday with the new Hella fan and shroud and Vince is going to test all three settings to see if this 3 pin works - says might have an internal resistor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Opened this up to keep a gallery of the classics. ( some been and gone regrettable) https://www.instagram.com/keyscaff1/ Edited January 24, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted January 24, 2021 A mate is on there, thebrown911sc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Dox said: A mate is on there, thebrown911sc Will have a look love the old porkers. Edited January 24, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) Ok an update on the three pin Hella fan - I didn't get to stealth last Saturday as forecast was snow and didn't want to risk the Rado with bad drivers on the road. Anyway I cant see how it could of worked properly with three pins as speed 2 would be redundant so sent it back and got a refund . So I contacted classics and they have the part below and confirmed it is 4 pin but 400 euro, however I found another seller on ebay from Lithuania for a genuine nos unit for £230. The only difference is the highest setting (3) is 450 rather then 350 which is a good thing in my opinion. Genuine Volkswagen Radiator Fan NOS VW SEAT Caddy Corrado Derby 357959455L Bosch Edited February 3, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1xshaunx1 27 Posted February 4, 2021 19 hours ago, Keyo said: Ok an update on the three pin Hella fan - I didn't get to stealth last Saturday as forecast was snow and didn't want to risk the Rado with bad drivers on the road. Anyway I cant see how it could of worked properly with three pins as speed 2 would be redundant so sent it back and got a refund . So I contacted classics and they have the part below and confirmed it is 4 pin but 400 euro, however I found another seller on ebay from Lithuania for a genuine nos unit for £230. The only difference is the highest setting (3) is 450 rather then 350 which is a good thing in my opinion. Genuine Volkswagen Radiator Fan NOS VW SEAT Caddy Corrado Derby 357959455L Bosch I can only see this being delivered the same as the one you are sending back. I say this because it ends L, and has no mention of it being the same as J. The one you are sending back was cross referenced to match L too. Have they sent you a photo with 4 pins? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 1xshaunx1 said: I can only see this being delivered the same as the one you are sending back. I say this because it ends L, and has no mention of it being the same as J. The one you are sending back was cross referenced to match L too. Have they sent you a photo with 4 pins? I contacted classics mate and asked them how many pins and they said 4. Also found this for reference. https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-599043877-motoventilador-passat-28-357959455l-_JM It is also listed on etka for corrado. with towing so thats why it got the extra beef power on setting 3 mucker 😄 450 badboys. Would attach pics but not working for me today click on link and you will see pics. From classics. Dear Kieran, this fan has 4 pins, as far as I can see this was also the only fan fo the ABV engine no matter if the vehicle has ac or not. Kind regards That means 4 pins and the only one they have available for corrado and it dont matter if you have aircon or not. Edited February 4, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 4, 2021 One above is in Mexico works out £211 without postage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Vemo did a version of it as well with 4 pin but now obsolete . Dont ask me why aftermarket is now all 3 pin . https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vemo-parts/auxiliary-fan-assembly-no-longer-available/357959455l~vem/ Edited February 4, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dox 23 Posted February 4, 2021 Fan, radiator 357959455L OE Number buy online (onlinecarparts.co.uk) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dox said: Fan, radiator 357959455L OE Number buy online (onlinecarparts.co.uk) They are all three pins and the ones showing as not available the Vemo and Bosch are 4 pin. Im not sure why so many are making 3 pin when part number from factory ending with L is 4 pin - also they have the part ending with K and J saying will fit for 3 pin but all these fans from factory are Bosch 4 pin. I have a k and J fan here and they are both 4 pin. Can anyone make sense of this or they just expect you only to use two of the settings from the factory electrics ? SEAT - VW - OE-100959455K SEAT - VW - OE-100959455L SEAT - VW - OE-357959455H SEAT - VW - OE-357959455J SEAT - VW - OE-357959455K SEAT - VW - OE-357959455L SEAT - VW - OE-6K0959455 SEAT - VW - OE-6K0959455F Please note that the final check for compatibility is p Edited February 4, 2021 by Keyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 9, 2021 Black magic will be upgraded in the next couple of months to my own take on a special edition- just getting the parts together . Here is one of the nos parts that will be needed for one of the upgrades. This part I will be modding it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Dox said: 6 speed? Your thinking is logical- a big reveal will be updated on my thread latter in Spring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyo 47 Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dox said: Sequential? Cant give no more away Dox its just a teaser for now but all will be revealed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites