ABS scan codes 00287 + 00290 advice

[Keyo 47]

Hi Folks.

 

I was scanning my car for faults earlier with a V Gate scanner , just a cheapo scanner .

 

Whilst scanning the ABS it came up with faults codes below, rear left and right abs speed sensors. The ABS light comes on start up and turns off as it should and never lights up whilst driving.

 

Its says static mechanical. Does this mean that they are not actually faults and the car wheels are just static.

 

Any advice would be appreciated , I don't think the sensors are not working as a bit of a coincidence its both rear sides and abs light does not come on whilst driving. Also brakes seem to be working as they should.

 

If anyone has a V Gate scanner could they see if these codes come up whilst scanning their car , I scanned the car with the engine running but stationary. Also it would not let me erase the codes for some reason.

 

Thank You

 

 

Pictures of fault codes.

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]97305[/ATTACH]

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]97306[/ATTACH]

Edited July 20, 2019 by Keyo

[Dox 23]

If you’re ever around Cheshire I’ll scan it with VCDS for you

 

 

If the light stays off when driving the system is all good

[Keyo 47]

If you’re ever around Cheshire I’ll scan it with VCDS for you

 

 

If the light stays off when driving the system is all good

 

Thanks Dox VCDS is obviously the best tool for the job, I've got a feeling that they are nothing to worry about, think it might be like fault code 00513 engine speed sensor that will come on if the engine is not on but not appear if the engine is running.

 

The light does stay off.

[Dox 23]

Thanks The light does stay off.

 

The time to worry is when it gives you a sun tan...……………...

[_Matt_ 32]

They'll be wheel sensors (relatively cheap compared to pump and ECU) if they are broken, however if the ABS light stays out whilst driving it's nothing to worry about.

 

My ABS light used to give me a sun tan for sure! Looking forward to not seeing it when I get the car back.... if I see it again shortly I'll be peeved (I've had a replacement pump, new lines and flexi's, brakes, ABS rotar rings and sensors... there are still more parts to go wrong though!)

[Keyo 47]

Wow that sounds like a big job !

 

I had new lines put in as well to the rear wheels maybe it’s something to do with that . I take it there is just one light on the abs switch in the middle strip that illuminates just in case I have some bulbs out . My light comes on start up but always turns off whilst driving .

[_Matt_ 32]

Yeah that is all there is. Does sound like your system is working well... but there is always something to keep us on our toes.

[Keyo 47]

Yeah that is all there is. Does sound like your system is working well... but there is always something to keep us on our toes.

 

Yes you do not own a Rado for economical reasons that for sure ha ! But the time and money you have spent on your ABS system is a perfect example of why you wouldn't let your car sell for cheap.

[Keyo 47]

Ive emailed Vince the codes Ill update on here what the conclusion is.

[Dox 23]

I suppose they could be historic codes from a previous time?

 

Clear them and see if they return?

[Keyo 47]

I suppose they could be historic codes from a previous time?

 

Clear them and see if they return?

 

Thanks Dox.

 

They certainly could be historic .

 

Tried clearing them and it said failed to clear , never had any other issues deleting other codes, Im wondering if it is a live feed data , because I think on VCDS if you spin the wheels it will give you a read out .

[Keyo 47]

If you read the description below off ross Tek mine says mechanical static so not listed as a fault.

 

 

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44): Signal Outside Specifications

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44): Electrical Fault in Circuit

 

Possible Causes

Open Circuit in Wiring from/to ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44) faulty

 

Possible Solutions

Check Wiring from/to ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

Check ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

 

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44): Mechanical Malfunction

Possible Causes

Excessive Air Gap between ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44) and Rotor

Short Circuit in Wiring from/to ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44) faulty

 

Possible Solutions

Check ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44) Installation

Check Wiring from/to ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

Check ABS Wheel Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

[Dox 23]

I wouldn't trust a generic code reader on these cars for non engine stuff. Presuming the ABS light hasn't been doctored with some sort of timer chip, the light is working correctly, the system has no faults?

 

 

Does the ABS actually work? Does the pedal pulse evenly 3-4 times on start up as the car self tests?

 

 

If you suspect the light has been frigged unplug one of the sensors and see if the light still goes out.

 

 

If the system up is working the more you fiddle the more likely you are to break this delicate set up...……...

[Keyo 47]

Yes the Abs light comes on start up and then goes off.

 

Ill try the pulse test now on the pedal, never even knew it did that to be honest.

[Keyo 47]

Cant feel the pedal pulsing, It take you mean that you can feel the pedal depress a few times on start up , put my hand on the brake pedal and could not feel anything.

[Dox 23]

Cant feel the pedal pulsing, It take you mean that you can feel the pedal depress a few times on start up , put my hand on the brake pedal and could not feel anything.

 

Find a quiet road and stand on the brake pedal to see if you can lock the brakes. If they lock, unplug one of the front sensors clipped to the underbonnet strut tops and see if the system goes into fault - dash light on.

[Keyo 47]

Find a quiet road and stand on the brake pedal to see if you can lock the brakes. If they lock, unplug one of the front sensors clipped to the underbonnet strut tops and see if the system goes into fault - dash light on.

 

Thanks Im going to pop down Stealth on a Saturday morning at some point, he emailed tonight saying if the light does not show it's ugly head after start up then there is nothing to worry about amd as you mentioned they are probably historic and the V gate is unable to delete them.

[dr_mat 0]

Save your time, ignore it and get an OBDeleven.

If the ABS light comes on during startup, but then goes out and stays out for the duration, you do not have a problem.

[_Matt_ 32]

I'd recommend the OBDelevan too. Great for modifying the coding on your golf GTI as well :-)

[Keyo 47]

Thanks mate have you a link for one. Definitely works on OBD1 technology?

 

Cheers.

[Keyo 47]

Save your time, ignore it and get an OBDeleven.

If the ABS light comes on during startup, but then goes out and stays out for the duration, you do not have a problem.

 

This is the case so Ive put it to rest, however I did notice a missing rear ABS cable holder, thankfully got a couple spare.

[_Matt_ 32]

Here a link to the OBDEleven

 

 

https://obdeleven.com/en/home/10-obdeleven-device-0725423005103.html

[Keyo 47]

Nice one for the link that is a good price to.

[dr_mat 0]

Re obdeleven : it works on VR6s but won't work on the other cars afaik.

[_Matt_ 32]

The obdelevan is really for post 1996 OBD2 vag cars. Later ones are more supported for coding mods. I use it on other cars in the family. For the VR6 it works because there is an obd2 style port but we only get basic scanning and live read out functionality.