STORM 2 0 Posted January 3 removed both bolts but wont shift from the back ! the control arm will move around on the rubber bush but wont come out from the subframe . Am I missing something here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ger040 4 Posted January 3 I believe there is a fine soft metal sleeve there also that may be holding it in - helps stop the bolt and bushing metal sleeve rusting together A good thump should remove it as the sleeve is soft Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STORM 2 0 Posted January 3 does it matter if the sleeve is damaged when trying to whack out the control arm? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STORM 2 0 Posted January 4 got it out after using every expletive known - for anyone’s info. -take out the sleeve first . Mine was rusted in so ruined it getting the control arm out . now have to source another without the bush (new control arm has a bushing already pressed in) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ger040 4 Posted January 4 Glad you got it sorted🖕 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crasher 4 Posted January 4 (edited) The old practice was to stick a drift up the side of the sleeve and collapse it so it can be pulled out with pin nosed grips, or just bust the wishbone out with a crowbar. What confuses me is no Corrado ever used this sleeve, part number 191 407 190 A, as it was only used in the Golf 2 subframe, instead the type 535 subframe employed curved slots that the wishbone bush centre tube engages in as per Golf 3. In the 191 subframe, the key point to successful reinstallation of a new tube is having the wishbone absolutely flat so not connected to the hub. In the 90’s I designed an installation slide hammer tool which centred the bush tube even loaded and allowed the tube to be pushed in. If you need any selves I still have a bucket load but they are rusty and the postage costs more than they are worth, a Febi 03544 is typically 50p. Edited January 4 by Crasher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STORM 2 0 Posted Thursday at 11:59 PM That’s very interesting Crasher, because I couldn’t find anything about this sleeve in the VW parts info, nor anything in Bentley about it being present . I have the whole suspension out , so hopefully it wont be too much of a bitch putting the new sleeve back in - as you say it would be very difficult if you couldn’t get the control arm fully horizontal. Managed to get Febi replacements from Opie Oils for next to nothing so thanks for offering to dip into your parts bin! Not sure whether to copper grease the sleeve before putting it into the control arm or not because I assume the sleeve is there for compression around the bolt. A vertical bolt surely has the highest risk of falling out eventually if no countermeasures present (apart from thread lock and proper torque setting of course). But what is the reasoning behind the sleeve do you think? Perhaps to allow some rotational movement ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites