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[PhatVR6 0]

If you remember, I wrote into GT-Purely Porsche magazine last month about my unusual porsche wheels to see if anyone could identify them. I mentioned in the letter that I also had some Boxster S brakes waiting to go on the car too. They printed the letter and photo last month, I have recieved only this reply, printed in this months issue.....Is the guy trying to genuinely help? or is it just another case of the snobbish, elitist attitude typical of Porsche owners?

 

Discuss. I'll post it on the forums tonight to see what the VW world think of his comments about our cars.....

 

 

VW Porsche

 

It was with great interest that I read Paul Horrocks Techincally speaking query in last month's issue (Wheely Stuck On This, 01/05), where he was after the identity of some 911 wheels that he had bought. Unfortunately I can't help him with the identity of his wheels, but I may be able to pass on some advice. I have been a fan of German cars since my youth and to me there is nothing that can match the engineering integrity, speed, handling and appeal of a well-sorted VW, Audi or Porsche. Having progressed up the ranks from a Mk1 Golf GTI into an Audi S2 and now a 996 Carrera 2 I feel I have finally achieved my goal.

 

It is great to see people like Paul following the same path and I realise that retro fitting Porsche parts to VW's is a fairly common modification these days. However, I thought you might be interested in something I was told by a mechanic friend of mine several years ago regarding putting Porsche parts onto lesser cars.

 

Basically he was worried about the increasing trend of using porsche parts on VW's because they might actually make the cars worse. his argument (which I agree with) was that Porsches are designed as performance cars and with the 911 in particular, are setup specifically for the layout of the car. therfore, fitting the brakes from a 911, which have been designed with a rear engine, rear wheel drive layout in mind, won't neccessarily benefit a car, which at the end of the day has been designed as a front -engined, frontwheel drive family hatchback. having a rear bias brake setup could in fact be detrimental to the handling of the car and will be unsuited to fast road driving. Obviously retro fitting wheels, like Paul did, isn't so much of an issue, although I can't imagine they do the Corrado's fuel comsuption any favours!

 

Anthony Farrel, via e-mail

 

Edit: Title censored. --Andi (Admin)

[dr_mat 0]

I'd be interested to know of a single vehicle in the known universe that could be called a "car" that has a "rear-biased brake setup". Even rear-wheel drive 911s have bigger brakes at the front than the rear, so personally I think he's talking out of his .

[vr6storm 0]

I'd be interested to know of a single vehicle in the known universe that could be called a "car" that has a "rear-biased brake setup". Even rear-wheel drive 911s have bigger brakes at the front than the rear, so personally I think he's talking out of his .

 

 

 

err........my 924S has larger rear discs than the front :wink:

[dr_mat 0]

Does it have a larger braking surface area or does it just have a hub with a drum brake (for the handbrake) in the middle?

[vr6storm 0]

so one guy's opinions/comments automatically tars all Porsche drivers/owners????????...............

[Andi 2,147,483,647]

He did pose it as a question, not a statement. :)

[dr_mat 0]

so one guy's opinions/comments automatically tars all Porsche drivers/owners????????...............

 

No. Just saying this guy is clearly a prat...

[2cc 0]

the words a****y retentive spring to mind, but then he does seem to have a penchant for 'rear bias' :lol:

[Phil K 0]

sounds like he started off with all respect but then got his head so firmly wedged up his ass that he forgot what he was saying :lol:

[Henny 0]

No. Just saying this guy is clearly a prat...

That's one of your best answers yet Mat! 8) :lol:

 

I'm with you on the front brake bias... the only cars I can think of which have a rear brake bias are dragsters! :lol: (does a parachute qualify for the term "brakes" ?!? :? :lol: )

 

"something I was told by a mechanic friend of mine several years ago" erm, I know some mechanics I wouldn't let service my pushbike... :roll: Just 'cos one guy thinks he knows something, doesn't make him correct, but it also doesn't mean that all porsche drivers are like that... I work with a guy in our IT dept who's had a couple of Porsches now and still loves my Corrado (and his Clio sport 172! ;) )

 

Admittedly there are some utter f@*&wits who own/drive Porsches, but the same can be said about just about every type of car available... The 80s image of the typical Yuppy with the braces and the 911 is (unfortunately) still in most peoples subconcious when you mention Porsche drivers...

 

Shame, 'cos they're nice cars... 8)

[vr6storm 0]

He did pose it as a question, not a statement. :)

 

 

IMHO here its more of a statement

 

Is the guy trying to genuinely help? or is it just another case of the snobbish, elitist attitude typical of Porsche owners?

 

[dubbprince 0]

what a complete and utter tw*t...he had no advice to give you in reply to your wheels and showed no real interest in the corrado having porsche brakes...in summary didnt help one bit, but kinda gang up on you using the magazine readers (porka lot), saying the parts shouldnt be used on a 'lesser' car...what a complete and utter f*cker...that made me go mad that bit, the corrado is more of a car to own than his...regardless of the price tag and performance! I think he needs to get off his high horse..

[dinkus 10]

Well the guy is obviously an idiot, but it's hardly a fair to judge an entire Porsche owning population by a single idiots comments is it?

 

It's like a Porsche owner saying that all Corrado owners are morons because one of them said that his Corrado was way nicer than his Porsche.

 

It might be what that one person believes, that one person may also happen to be a complete idiot, but it's just their opinion.

 

Laugh, be happy in the fact that the guy is an idiot, wait for the reply next month in the mag from another Porsche owner telling him that it's complete bunkum and move on.

[dubbprince 0]

check this out mate...it'll cheer you up:

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 6144482669

 

still got a phatter car than a porsche!

[Supercharged 2]

err........my 924S has larger rear discs than the front

 

You can't really call a 924S a 'real' Porker tho Rodders, It was just a coupe prototype built for VW at the time but then ditched for the Corrado :lol:

 

[vr6storm 0]

err........my 924S has larger rear discs than the front

 

You can't really call a 924S a 'real' Porker tho Rodders, It was just a coupe prototype built for VW at the time but then ditched for the Corrado :lol:

 

 

 

certainly helped keep Porsche's bank balance healthy for a decade + ................and 924S's have a real porker engine in them :twisted:

[Henny 0]

OK Boys and girls, let's keep this civil or it's gonna be another locked thread... :roll: :nono: :brickwall:

[CazzaVR 0]

won't neccessarily benefit a car, which at the end of the day has been designed as a front -engined, frontwheel drive family hatchback

 

WTF?!!! Family hatch... :lol:

 

First time I've heard the C called that!

[Storm 0]

This does actually make sense, not that the guy who wrote the response knew exactley why. Ask yourself this; If you increase the proportional size of the rear discs, then you need more of a bias to the front to compensate. Otherwise you will prematurely lock the rears up all the time. So if you are modding cars taking bits from one to another be it across marques or from one VW to another (I count using porker parts on a dub as the same brand). then there are risks involved if you dont know what your doing.

 

This guy has merely stated an opinion, his comment regarding wheels and the brakes shows that technically he does not know what he is talking about. That I would suggest does not make him a merchant Banker, just very badly informed. The thing I dont like is "lesser cars" FFS less of the superiority complex. I love my rado just as much as my other cars.

 

Paul, I have followed Porsche for many years as an enthusiast. If the wheels you are talking about look like a split rim version of the one piece wheels fitted to a Turbo 4, then they are in my opinion not original. As far as I know Porsche never fitted a split rim Turbo 4 alloy wheel to any of there cars.

 

Porsche Wheel specialists in the UK, if its genuine, they will know about it:

http://www.jasmine-motorsport.co.uk/

 

[rmn 0]

My god that guy is an idiot!

I belive those brakes are made by brembo or such like for porsche, seat, mitsubushi etc!

not just for stutgurard finest!

as for rear brake bias, doesnt the front brakes on a car do something like 80% of the braking due to weigth transfer when you dance on the middle peddle

rear brake bias would be like lifting the handbrake every time you try to slow down!, he is a fool!

 

As for his snobish attitude, its just him, i know lots of people with porsches who are down to earth!

Here in Ireland we had one guy who used to put the odd porsche to shame on the track!

he had a 16v g60 mk1 that did have about 250bhp and some porsche wheels and brakes! :lol:

 

All i can do is laugh at idiots like this guy, he will also be laughed at by lots of the other readers too!

Paul, that guy is a twat!

Not like most porsche drivers, they are the ones up for it on the motorway usually

[godskitchen 0]

whats with all the thread looking????????

 

this aint the bbc showing jerry springer all over again is it?

[Storm 0]

nope, stops your nuts falling off. oo-er

[rmn 0]

nope, stops your nuts falling off. oo-er

 

ba boom!!! :lol:

[dinkus 10]

whats with all the thread looking????????

 

this aint the bbc showing jerry springer all over again is it?

 

:lol: if you mean the locking, it's cos quite a few threads have been getting plain abusive, or near it.

 

We're all for having open discussion, but irrational abuse gets locked ;)

[Supercharged 2]

Yes, me and Rodders were getting quite abusive earlier with words such as 'prototype' and 'certainly' being thrown about, we both appologise and if it happens again I suggest a ban to teach us both a jolly good lesson!