Rams 0 Posted June 12, 2003 Can anyone point me in the gereral direction in where I can have NOZ fitted and estimated cost? I believe there are a few different types of Nitros kits available, the one I liked the sound of was dry nitros, aparantely it was better for your engine. To my knowlege, the dry Noz is more of a gradual incease of power than apposed to a 50 or what ever sudden increase of power. The later does sound good but I know what I am like, and that button would be like playing a rally game on the computer! Gradual power sounds good to me. I am not confident with this art all hence why I am relying on my fellow C drivers to help. Whilst I was writing this, I just though the canister could go under the armrest? Eveyone seems to spend loads of money modifying their car when NOZ has to be the most fun to use, gives you great power but it hasnt fully taken off here like it has in america or something and we normally always follow on from the americans in such cases. So, anyone that wants to educate me on NOZ would be greatly appreciated, such as possible side effects, price, performance etc. Kind regards - Rams :wink: :wink: :pharoh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GazzaG60 0 Posted June 12, 2003 dont go dry. go wet Dry is just NOS without fuel which unless u is mapped and got bigger fuel pump injectors then you gonna lean out bad. Timing is also a issue. it is usually necessary to retard a degree or two with NOS. get a wet kit which adds fuel and NOS. get 40 shot or so. If you read vortex them you see that sam added a 40 shot and hit around 300wheel lbs fT of torque. for reference a std car does around 140lbs ft at the wheels. sound slike it may take its toll on the engine and tranny after a short time. any more n somefink is snapping. i do fancy installing NOS myself. not sure if any insurance company will touch a car with NOS installed. Get a bottle warmer n a pressure gauge. both are needed. pressure needs to be sustained i believe. not sure about venting. Believe they use a safety valve in case of excess pressure. if this goes itll vent laughing gas into the cabin. not good. think in racing you need to vet this through the floor. stops u getting giddy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rams 0 Posted June 12, 2003 Any idea of price? I think you would have to say a little white lie to the insurance company! Yeah, Hi there, I am 21 and would like to insurce a Corrado VR6, EMMMMM, its going to be expensive......., oh yeah, I have Nitros Oxside fitted which makes my car take off into the distance.. get real you xxxxxx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G60 0 Posted June 12, 2003 if you had a G60 i'd say talk to sam from SNS. he's put nitrous on one of his G60s and has had great success. it works *very* well to drop intake temps.. and the extra torque is unreal. you can get a wet kit along with a controller that will release it gradually instead of one big hit. i think the reason a lot of people don't go with nitrous is that the engine and components must be in tip top condition or you'll just break things. driveshafts, cvs.. and shit like that won't be easy to keep in one piece if you run an already modded car with nitrous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Man 0 Posted June 12, 2003 Highpower are one of the leading UK distributers of NOS systems goto their website click here they have all the info on what to do and what costs are involved. I am personally looking at going the nos route in the near future and I will definately get a wet kit as the dry nos only injection can cause bad fuel to nos dissipation across each cylinder which can cause piston meltdown!! just as a guide you'll be looking at about the £700 mark fitted for a basic kit and then if you want the progressive controller on top of that so you have control over the rate the nos is fed into the engine you'll be looking at a further £400 odd quid!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted June 12, 2003 Ive been running Wizard kit on my VR for a year now with no problems at all and still puring at 135k ,running 50 jets at mo,timming is not an big issue,myne is advanced with a superchip(which is a big no no ?!!)when its supposed to be retarded to stop pre-detonation,progressive controllers are good when running over the 100 bhp mark and can always be added at later date. Kits are SO EASY to fit ,you get instructions to do so,whether you have machanical knowlage or not ..... More than likley the budget kits you buy will be wet rather than dry,and IGNORE the myth leading around n.o.s kits,pistons melting ,manifold bla bla .......rubish Wizard kits have a good build quality and good to talk to. What does this red button dooooooooo...........................................>>>> :shock: Cheers James Ive yet not come across insurers how will touch N.O.S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rams 0 Posted June 16, 2003 I am confused now??? I have the cash to get this system in place so I guess I should get as much knowlege as possible, if you have any more things yoiiu can tell me about Nos that would be a great start. I want to lear it for myself before I decide to get it done so I know what to do and expect. Corradovr6 -nos, what performance stats are you producing? Is it really a killer on the road and c\ould I have the button on my gear knob if I lifted a cap for the obvious reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pau1 0 Posted June 16, 2003 c\ould I have the button on my gear knob if I lifted a cap for the obvious reasons. Yeah you can have a push button on the Gearknob. But you should run an 2nd Arm button on the right hand side of your dash too. Get on of those fancy Helicopter missile arming switches. Running both will stop your drunk mates or crazy girlfirend sending you flying past the coppers.... :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rams 0 Posted June 16, 2003 Nice one mate, that just made me laugh, the funny thig is mate that its the sort of thing my girlfriend would do!! Shes already had an accident in my car when she poped to the shops for some shopping, The last thing I said to her was be carefull, I love this car and then she called me 30 minutes later saying your not going to believe this and you can imagine I felt straight out of love with her as my heart was broken. Never mind her, joke! Wicked idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pau1 0 Posted June 16, 2003 Yeah my girlfriend went down to the shops the other day in my car too. She came back when i was decorating and i wasn't in the best of moods. Anyway she says to me, when she got home... " Do you want the good news or the bad news" I said " Im not in the mood for bad news today"................ " Oh well the good news is, Paul, The air bag worked ! " Joke too..... :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rams 0 Posted June 16, 2003 Your misses should have used her own twin airbags like mine had to do!! Luck my women has more silicone than that I use to clean the insides out of my car! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted June 16, 2003 Hi Rams Wizard kits http://www.noswizard.com/ are the best kits in the uk,well built,reliable,good aftersales. Performance figures....well f**k me they make a differance BIG power on flick of a switch, im running 75 bhp jets at mo and havent played with it anymore cos im just gone over a roundabout ,not round it like normal people !!! :lol: Its reliable to,dont listen to " my manifold welds broke" :? holed pistons ect ect. All rubish if its set up right it will blow you away If you want more info just mail me and ill send many links Cheers James With bent Vr6 :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted February 15, 2004 On the topic of Nirtous, i thought i'd share my new purchase with you. Direct port nitrous oxide injection system for the VR6 Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe M 0 Posted February 15, 2004 8) , what are the jets rated at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted February 15, 2004 On the topic of Nirtous, i thought i'd share my new purchase with you. Direct port nitrous oxide injection system for the VR6 Chris Very nice Chris 8) braided lines would have been better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted February 16, 2004 My kit has fully braided lines :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted February 16, 2004 Not too fussed about the pipes as long as it delivers! Joe, if you mean the metering jets in the solenoids, they are at 75bhp though each injector is capable of handling 175bhp alone, the idea of direct port is that the VR's long & curvy inlet manifold means that you get a fair degree of fuel drop out and i want as much as i can get out of it without waste. The power delivery is instant and more accurate that the single point. Will be good when fitted i'm sure so here's waiting for a nice day to fit it. James, you not fancy? I need to get things sweet for this years thrash to Mania in Belgium i hope to go to. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorradoVR6-Turbo 0 Posted February 16, 2004 I do fancy direct port :twisted: but money is going on engine I'm doing up at the mo,lightened ,cams,porting ect :twisted: Still works fine with the set up ive got now!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jims corrado 0 Posted February 16, 2004 I remember a trip to Highpower about 10 years ago. Myself and a mate had an old mk3 escort fitted with an xr2 rally engine, twin 40's, big cam etc.... We went to look at a kit and asked for some sort of demo. At the time these 2 guys were working out of a collection of sheds on some allotments near Doncaster. As a demo they opened up one of the sheds and proudly presented us with A BOND BUG! You know the orange plastic 3 wheeled thing. Without nitrous 0-60 = never. With nitrous 0-60 = 7 seconds. We politely declined a test drive and bought the basic kit. After installing 50 bhp jets and getting it set up it was really good. Unforunately we got a bit greedy and went to 100bhp jets. The engine survived, but the chassis only lasted 6 weeks before it literally tore itself apart. Eventually we got £6 scrap value for the chassis and the nitrous kit is in my mates garage awaiting its next outing. Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted February 17, 2004 LOL, good story! Yeah, the setup hasn't gone to far from those grass roots, a portacabin was bought last year to use as an office and the sheds/allotments are still there! The kit is good though and works well but it makes round-a-bouts come up very quickly indeed! Jim, how did your car do on stealths rollers? Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jims corrado 0 Posted February 17, 2004 Chris, You recognised the garage from the pic then? It made 148bhp (not bad for a standard 16v!) Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted February 17, 2004 Yeah i've been down a couple of times, picking up a long throw steel VR crank with Paul(H8 RRA) for his car. Never had mine on the rollers, shame but need other stuff doing before i spend cash on R/Roading it though i'm curious what it's putting out in it's current state! Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted February 17, 2004 Where are these steel cranks comng from? what's the throw on them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris VR6nos 0 Posted February 17, 2004 It's a secret! ABT & EIP do them this one is 95.6mm IIRC Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhatVR6 0 Posted February 17, 2004 ah, so it'll be Stealth then :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
